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The FBI's 62-HQ-83894 case file includes investigative records, eyewitness testimonies, and public reports concerning Unidentified Flying Objects and flying discs documented between June 1947 and July 1968. The records include high-profile incident accounts, photographic evidence from sites like Oak Ridge, TN, and technical proposals regarding potential propulsion systems. Additional topics include convention programs, researcher accounts, and extensive media coverage from the period. This file is partially posted on FBI vault with more redactions and some pages missing. Included here is the complete case file with several newly declassified pages and only minor redactions.
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Office Memorandum - ox. oTATES GOYERNMENT- |
TO : ) Director, FBI - Attention; Assistant DATE: Auguét' 8y 1947 |
/ Director D. M. LADD ‘
FROM [ SAC, San Francisco o ;
suBJECT~. \/FLYING DISCS |
\Rnferenoo is made to my letter to the Bureau dated July 28, 1947
entitled as above forwarding a copy of a report furnished to me by Lieutenant !
Colonel DONALD SPRINGER, A-2, Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California, set- 1
ting forth the results of inquiries mede by his office concerning the reported
gightings of flying discs. i
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f As of further interest to the Bureau in this regard, ther(;x%. V.
mitted herewith photostatic copies of three letters dated August 4, 1947 % ¥
entitled "Investigation of Flying Discs," furnished to me by Major WILLIAM R. i
GRAHAM, Deputy AC of S, A-2, Army Air Forces, Hamilton Field, California, who is H
acting in the absence of Lieutenant Colonmel SPRINGER, enclosing copies of reports |
of additional reported sightings of flying discs by persoms in Oregon and Arizona, f
together with the results of their investigations in that regard.
It is noted that these investigations were conducted prior to the
time Bureau instructions were issued that our own Bureau would conduct inquiries
into the reported sightings of flying discs. AL A~
Copies of these reports are being forwarded to M
Phoenix Offices for the completion of their files in comnnection with this subject.
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i ()fiice Me/romndzmz e UNITED STAT!S GOVERNMENT
TO “ : DIRECTOR, "b‘b.[ DATE: August 13, 1947
j;tioxu : SAC; NEWARK
SUBJECT: KLYING DISC REPORTED AT
HACKENSACK, NEW JERSEY
AUGUST 3, 1947 - MISCELLANEQUS f
Reference is made to tne teletype from the Newark Division
to the Bureau dated August 4, 1947 stating tnat a "Fiying Disc" had
been reported to hgv¢ been seen at Hackensagky New Jersey on August 3
last by one Glfl&iiLE@C{SELLA, JR. and ,'JIILl}a\fi\'IRUE)L.
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CHARLES CASELIA, JR., 287 Euclid Avenue, Hackensack, upon
interview by Special Agent ARTHUR F. WILLIAMS of this Division, stated
that on August 3 he had been standing with WILLIAM TRUEX, a soldier
stationed at Fort Dix, observing a "ham" radio rig atop a two-story
house on Simons Avenue, Hackensack. It was approximately 7:45 pem.,
and they were in this vicinity for the purpose of meeting TRUEX's
girlfriend, one JOYCE Mc FAHIAND.
TRUEX commented to CASELIA that a child had apparently
lost its balloon. CASELLA looked and about a block or a half block
away noticed a round, black object moving from south to north and
east of the stop where he and TRUEX were standing. CASELIA noticed
that it was moving too fast to be an ordinary balloon, but he could
not discern whether it was globular in form or a disc. He said it
was about thirty to forty inches in diameter moving north in a hori-
zontal plane about two hundred yards above the top of the hill at
Summit Avenue and Simons Avenue. Iv proceeded at a steaay rate,
emitted no rays, and was moving fast enougn to require them to turn
tneir heads steadily in order to follow it. TRUEX's girlfriend came
out about fifteen seconds after they first sighted it. They pointed
it out to her, and she said that it looked like a bird on the horizon
so small., It faded out of sight shortly thereafter. CASELIA said
that a line drawn along its apparent course of flight would go from
the vicinivy of Bendix, New Jersey to a point west of Westwood, New
Jersey,
CASELIA also said that a man on the porch across tne street
also noticed it and pointed it out to the women. CASELIA said that
this man seemed excited but did nothing about it.
CASELIA said tnav he was positive it was no optical illusion.
He was not facing into the sun and saw the object clearly. He also
said that ne would have thought notning of it except for the speed at
which it was traveling,
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Miss JOYCE Mc FARLAND, 476 Simons Avenue, upon interview
by Special Agent WILLIAMS, stated that the event in question occurred
at about 7:30 on tne evening of Sunday, August 3. She said that she
was in the house when CASELIA or TRUEX called to her. She went out
immediately, and they pointed out the object in question. She saw
it just before it disappeared over tne horizon, but she declared that
it was in view from that time for approximately one minute. She said
it was round and silver-blue in color and appeared to be revolving.
She said that she did not recall making any comment that it might have
been a bird and herself had no idea of wnat it could be. In view of
tne distance from which she noticed it, she said tnat it could not
have been more than six inches in diameter but would have been much
larger ir she had been near to it. Miss Mc FARIAND said that sne had
never seen anything like it before.
She said that across tne street the BOOTHS, mother and
daughter, were the only people sitting on tne porch and she, herself,
did not notice anyone pointing toward the object in question. The
only other person around, to her knowledge, was GLORIA TRUEX, sister
of WILLIAM TRUEX, wno remained in the house and did not see the object
at all.
Mrs. WINFIELD S. BOOTH, 459 Simons Avenue, stated that she
was on the porch on the evening in question with her mother but did
not notice any unusual object in the sky nor had any man been present
there to point out the opject in question.
The following information was received from TRUEX through
interview by Special Agent T. HOWARD WALDRON:
Private WILLIAM A. TRUEX, RA 12282003, Company G, 2nd Bat-
talion, 47th Infantry Regiment, 9th Division, Fort Dix, New Jersey,
advised he was born April 12, 1930 at Jersey City, New Jersey and
completed eight and one half years of school. He enlisted in the
United States Army on ilay 29, 1947. His mother is lirs. GRACE FIKLDS
of 88 Wales Avenue, River Edge, Bergen County, New Jersey. TRUEX
stated thatv on Sunday, August 3, 1947, at 8:00 p.m., he was standing
outside the home ot his girlfriend, Miss JOYCE Mc FARIAND, 478 Simons
Avenue, Hackensack, New Jersey, accompanied by CHARLES CASELIA of 287
Euclid Avenue, Hackensack, New Jersey, who is his sister's fiance.
He said tnat he and CASELIA were looking at the radio antenna on a
home near the 478 Simons Avenue address wnen they noticed an object
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about two to three feet in aiameter moving rapidly about two hundred
yards off tne ground. TRUEX said he thought at first it was a child's
balloon, but when he noticed there was no wind and the object had no
strings to it, he decided it was sometning else. He stated the object
was moving in a steady, straight path, going nortn, and he said there
was no exhaust or indication of any motive power tor the object.
TRUEX said they observed tne object for fifteen or twenty seconds. He
could not give a description ot tne object's color or the materiai it
was composed of but said it looked more like a large, tlat child's cup
than anything else he could think of, as the object was oval on the
top and came to a point on the bottom side. TRUEX said that CASELIA
stated "Maybe it's a flying saucer". He said he had never seen any-
thing move through the air quite like this object, and he had no idea
where it came from.
i TRUEX statved that neither he nor CASELIA had had anything to
drink, and there was sutficient light for them to observe tne object
very clearly.
The "Flying Disc" was reported by CASELIA to Sergeant JAMES
PERONE of the Hackensack Police Department. Sergeant PERONE advised
the writer that his Department had taken no further action nor had
they received reports of the object in question from any other source.
It may be noted that no other Police Department in tne vicinity has
brought to tne attention or this Division any information regarding
this matter.
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FBI DETROIT 8=-5=-47 5-08 PM EST JOH
_DTRECTOR, FBI URGENT
UNSUBS, RAYMOND EDWARP{ LANP, MRS. LAUL&/LATZ, INFORMATNTS, FLY.ING
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DISC, MISC. INFO RECEIVED FROM DOW.CHEMICAL COMPANY, "'IULAI;D,/\X%;'/Q,
MICHIGAN, THAT ON JULY TEN LAST RAYMOND EDWARD LANE AN EMPLOYEE
OF DOW AND SUBSIDIARY SINCE ABOUT NINETEEN TWENTY TWO, BROGUTH SOME //f
MATERIAL TO THEIR PHYSICS LABORATORY STATING THAT ABOUT FIVE FEETEEN,V /
PM JULY NINE LAST HE AND WIFE, LAURA LANE, WERE WALKING IN A FIELD
OWNED BY DOW AND ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET AWAY HEARD A PUFF NOISE, TURNED
AND SAW A BALL OF WHITE ABOUT THE SIZE OF A BUSHEL BAKET BURNING ABOUT
A FOOT OFF THE GROUND., THE FIRE DIED OUT IMMEDIATELY AND LANE LATE
SCOOPED UP A THREE INCH AREA OF FUSED SAND INTO A CAN AND TOOK THIS TO
o’y
THE PRYSICS -LAB. ECTH\COflFLAINAHTS INTERVIEWED. RAYMOND TEiLIPC SUB-
STANTIALLY SAME STORY BUT WIFE RELUCTANT TO TALK AND VERY INDEFINITE
ON WHAT HAPPENED. THERE ARE MAKRED DISCREPANCIES IN THEIR STORY.
DOW AUTHORITIES: CONSIDERED STORY FANTASTIC BUT HAVE EXAMINED MATERIAL
AND STATE CONTENTS {TO"BEy ORDINARY SAND, NOT RADIO ACTIVE , BUT GIVING
R . ECORDED
OFF AMMONIA GAS, ‘A 'SMALL SILVER NUGGETVALMOT é}k; EXCEPT FOR Sfig?
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AMMONIA ODOR, AND LITTLE DROPLETS OF SILVER flELTEDJ%§?§JU“ AND SOME
IOTVER GRAYISH COLOR IN MATERIAL WHICH IS RADIQ ACTIWm., LEVEL OF
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RADIO ACTIVITY EXTREMELY LOW AND EMPLOYEE g%&y[fl { ZMPLOYED BY GOVERN-
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OF LOS ALAMOS SAND BUT NOT BELIEVED TO BE THE SAME. RAYMOND
\ LAND KNOWN TO HAVE IN HIS POSSESSION SMALL QUANTITY OF LUMINOUS
PAINT, RADIO ACTIVE, TO BE AN AMATEUR PHOTOGRAPHER, TO HAVE LIMITED
\ KNOWLEDGE OF CHEMISTRY AND PHYSICS FROM EMPLOYMENT AT DOW. LAND
DESCRIBED AS VERY PECULIAR, SURELY, ANTAGONISTIC TO PLANT PROTECTION
OFFICERS, INTERESTED IN PHOTOGRAPHY AND ELECTRICITY. LANE IS WHITE,
BORN MAY SEVEN, NINETEEN NAUGHT TWO, AT FREESOIL, MICHIGAN, FIVE
FEET NINE AND ONE HALF, ONE HUNDRED FORTY FIVE POUNDS, DARK BROWN
HAIR, PARTLY BALD, SERVED US ARMY NINETEEN EIGHTEEN TO NINETEEN
TWENTY THREE, CONVICTED NINETEEN TWENTY FOUR MIDLAND COUNTY,
MICHIGAN, FOR BURCLARY, SERVING SIXTY DAY SENTENCE. NEITHER PARTY
ADMITS STORY IS A PRANK, BUT LANE HAS MENTIONED FLYING DISCS AND ROCKETS.
ON INTERVIEW LANE WAS RELUCTANT TO DISCUSS MATTER AND NEITHER HE NOR
HIS WIFE ARE ABLE TO LOCATE THE EXACT LOCATION WHERE MATERIAL WAS
FOUND. ARMY AIR FORCES INTELLIGENCE AT SELFRIDGE FIELD, MICHICAN,
LABORATORY FOR EXAMINATION.
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64
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Ofice Memomndum + UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
1O : Mr, Ladd DATE: August 8, 1947
FROM : J. P. COWOW 3 ?ii
SUBJECT: UNKNOWN SUBJECTS; P ——
Raymond EdwardilLane, (8 e
g Mrs. Laura/lane - Informants; B —
FLYING DISC P —
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There is attached a memorandum setting forth the pertinent
information received by the Detroit Office from Raymond Edward Lane and
Mra., Laura Lane relative to "flying discs.”
RECOMMENDATTON : /,é/
It is recommended that this material be personally delivered by i 7
the Liaison Section to the appropriate contact in the War Department.
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FLYING DISC SIGHTED BY MRS. ROBER¥F—t|TTLE, SECURITY MATER X. Y/ ‘Q
CHICAGO HERALD AMERICAN TODAY REPORTED THAT LITTLE OF SIX THREE TWO
SEVEN HARPER AVENUE CHICAGO REPORTED SEEING A DISC THREE THIRTY AM
TODAY SAILING ABOVE LAKE MICHIGAN OFF JACKSON PARK BEACH. LITTLE
UNAVAILABLE FOR INTERVIEW TODAY. FATHER IN LAW JOSEPH REINER,
SiX THREE TWO SEVEN HARPER AVENUE, ADVISED LITTLE SIGHTED DISC OVER
A MONTH AGO AND SHE IS EIGHTEEN YEARS OF AGE. NO FURTHER INQUIRY .
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ISTANDARD FORM NO. 64
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SUBJECT: \“FLYING SAU ;
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Director, FBI
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! FLYING DISCS
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4 " 7 The War Department has furnished this Bureau with the:féllewing
“ telegram dated July 5 at New York, New York: i
7 "FOR FURTHER DETAILS CONCERNING FLYING DISKS SUGGEST
IMMEDIATE CONTACT OF MR. RICHARD F., SHAVER LILY LAKE
ILLINOIS WHO MAY HAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION CONCERN-
The War Department has furnished a memorandum entitled "Report or
Flying Saucers", dated July 7, 1947, adiressed to Commanding General , 32d AAF
Base Unit, Bolling Field, Washington, D. C., from John D. Schindler, Jr., two
copies of which are attached. The War Department has stated that the incidents
referred %o in the attached memorandum are in the general vicinity of Iily Lake,
which was given as the address of Richard F. Shaver in the above telegram.
It is, therefore, desired that the Chicago Field Division conduct
appropriate inquiries regarding Shaver, and in the event such inquiries do
not reveal information indicating that he ‘should not be interviewed, he
should be interrogated for any information he might have relative to flyin
the Bureau promptly advised.
Bnclosure\
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Mr. E. A, TaRE___
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64 . -
Offi/jf Memorananm + UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
*RT 16 Julv L7
TO : I paTe: 16 Jul;
FROM : WDGS, US BRANCH
" ,, SUBJECT: RICHARD F. SHAVER
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a. Copy of unsigned telegram received by HQ. AAF 9 July 1947,in which
; it is indicated thet Richard F‘,”'ul‘,’v‘!,{:, Lilly Lake, Illinois may have in-
formation concerning the origin of the™'flying saucers",
b, Copy of a report on flying saucers which were observed by four
witnesses while in flight in two airplanes over southern Wisconsin.
¢, Map with indications as to proximity of the locations where the
flying saucers were reported to have been seen in relation to Lily Lake,Ill
that the time
2. In view of the fact/the observation of the flying saucers was made
corresponds closely with the date of the unsigned telegram, and considering
the proximity of Lily Lake to the points where the objects were observed,
it is requested that Mr Shavexbe investigatad to determine whether or not
) & he has information pertaining to the origin of Flying Saucers.
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NEWYORK NY JUL 5
MAJOR PAUH{GAYNOR
AKF HQTS WASIDC
FOR FURTHER DETAILS CONCERNING FLYING DISKS SUGGEST
DMMEDIATE CONTACT OF MR. RICHARD F SHAVER LILY LAKE
TLLINOIS WHO MAY HAVE UMPORTANT INFORMATION CONCERNING
THEIR ORIGIN
UNSIGNED
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7 July 1947
SUBJECT: Report om Flyinz Saucers.
10: Comnanding Gemeral
324 AAY Base Unit
Bolling Fleld
Washingten, D. C.
l. Following-exe statistics regarding repvorts by four
wvitnesses while in flight in two airplanes.
2. VWeather CAVU. Visibility exceptionally good. Secat-
tered altocummlus 6000 feet.
3+ PFirst reportstime 1145 hours CS?. Alt. of observers
800 feet above the ground. Altitude of seamcer 4000 feb$ MSL.
Observedeperiod - First sighted over Xoshkomong, Wiscansin.
Flight was observed from town of Koshkonogg to Zlkhorn, Wisconsin.
This f1ight covered twenty-five ‘22300'“" in fifteen (15) seconds,
which is a speed of six thougand ( ) miles per hour,
4. Second reports Time 1430 hours CST. Altitude of observers
thirty-five hundred feet (3500) MSL. Altitude of samcer twenty-five
Iundred feet (2500)+ Observation perfod. Observers at Hast Troy,
Wisconsin, flight observed from Bagle, Wisconsin to Muskege, Wisconsin.
This flight coversd twenty-twe (22) miles in twenty (20 seconds, which
is a speed of three thousand nine lmdred sixty (3960) miles ver hour.
5« Plight maneuvers: FPirst observation-sencer descended vertically
edgewise through altocwmlus clouds, stopped at four thousend (4000)
feet and assumed horizontal position and proceeded in horizental flight
from a horizental position for fifteen (15) seconds covering twenty-
five (25) miles and again stopped and umuu. S econd observation:
Observed in horizontal flight in a hori attitude for a period of
twenty (20) seconds covering twenty-two (22) miles. By the time the
pilot had removed his camera from the glove compartment of his plans,
the saucer disappeared and again rongpo&rd approximately tenm (10) miles
farther along 1%s coursee after six (b) seconds making its final dis-
appearance.
6. The first two observers were an instructor and a student, having
Just taken off from Hikhorn Airport. The second $wo observers, one
being Cap'te R. J. Southey» Wing Supply Officer and a passenger.
3 SURE Johm D, m‘- hc
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CFLYING DISCS, S. M. = Xo RETEL PORTLAND TO DIRECTOR , SA;>% ANCFSCO;
AND SEATTLE AUGUST FIVE LAST. INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS MCCORD FIELD,
WN., ADVISE THAT IN THEIR @@ OPINION AND FROM THEIR INVESTIGATION
THERE IS NO QUESTION OF THE CRASH OF THE B- TWENTYFIVE AT KELSO, WN.
@RISR APPROXIMATELY TWO FIFTY A. M. , AUGUST ONE LAST HAVING BEEN CAUSED
BY ANY SABOTAGE. THEY STATE THEIR INVESTIGATION INDICATES THE LEFT
ENGINE BURNED OUT AN EXHAUST STACK WHICH CAUSED THE WING TO BURN AND
BREAK OFF. THE LEFT WING AS IT EES#W BROKE OFF TORE OFF THE TAIL AND
THE PLANE CRASHED INTO THE GROUND KILLING CAPT. DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN
INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS OF THE FOURTH AIR FORCE WHO WERE RETURNING FROM
MCCORD FIELD, WN., TO HAMILTON FIELD, CALIFPORNIA. THE CREW CHIEF AND
A HITCHHIKER PARACHUTED TO SAFETY FROM THE PLANE, ONLY FOUR MEMBERS
WERE ABOARD THE PLANE, DAVIDSON AND BROWN BEING PILOT AND CO- PILOT
AND HAD NO CHANCE TO ESCAPE WHEN THE WING BROKE OFF. LT. COL. DONALD
L. SPRINGER, A- TUO AMBRSEENEY OFFICER FOB THE FOURTH AIR FOR
HAMILTON FIELD, CALIFORNIA, ADvlsgg[%HAg§yAPTAIN DALIDSSON AND BROUN
WERE SENT FROM HAMILTON FIELD To INTERVIEW HARGLD A<DRH1 AND FRED
*GRISMAN AT TACOMA, WNe, REGARDING THEIR REPORT OF SEEE}NG SOME FLYING
DISCS OVER MAURY ISLAND, WN., AND THAT THEYHQQIQENED SOME OF THE DISC
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CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN ON THURSDAY, JULY WHREES THIRTYFIRST
LAST INTERVIEWED DAHL, CRISMAN, KENNETHYWRNOLD, FROM BOISE, IDAHO,
WHO WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THAT REPORTED SEENING FLYING DISCS AND EMIL
Hg*SMITH, UNITED AIRLINES PBLOT FROM SEATTBY, WN., WHO ALSO REPORTED
SEEING FLYING DISCS. THIS INTERVIEW TOOK PLACE AT THE WENSEEES WINTHROP
HOTEL ON THE AFTERNOON OF JULY WSWEWMS¥ THIRTYFIRST LAST. CAPTAIN
DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN WERE RETURNING TO HAMILTON FIELD FOR AIRFORCE
DAY AND HAD WITH THEM SOME OF THE DISC FRAGMENTS AS REPORTED BY DAHL
AND CRISMAN.
€. REPORTER PAULLLANTZ OF TACOMA TIMES, AND UNITED PRESS
WIREMAN TED*MORELLO OF TACOMA, RECEIVED ANONYMOUS PHONE CALLS JULY
THIRTYFIRST AND AUGUST FIRST LAST REGARDING THE MEETING AT THE WINTHROP
HOTEL ONER THE DISCS FRAGMENTS AND THAT THE B- TWENTYFIVE WHICH
CRASHED THE MORNING OF AWM AUGUST ONE WAS #@ SABOTAGED OR SHOT DOUN.
INFORMATION AS YET NOT VERIFIED INDICATED THE ENTIRE STORY STARTED BY
DAHL AND CRISMAN POSSIBLY TO PROMOTE SALE OF SLAG FOUND IN A GRAVEL
PIT ON MAURY ISLAND, WN. ~NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE AS YET AS TO THE
IDENTITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALL TO THE
TACOMA TIMES AND THE UNITED PRESS, DAHL AND CRISMAN WILL BE INTER-
VIEWED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. INVESTIGATION CONTINUING.
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August 1, 1947
107 RO CATEONS st SAC, Seattle URGENT
REURTEL AUGUST TWELVE. IT IS NOTED FROM INTERROGATION OF JL?“\JT:"S‘JITH,
SMITH CLAIMS THAT DURING THE CONFERENCE ON JULY THIRTY ONE l'iLxT\DAHL
AND™CHRISMAN AFPARENTLY REPEATED THEIR FALSE STORY ABOUT THE MATERIAL
BEING FRAGMENTS OF A FLYING DISC AND ONLY ON SATURDAY NIGHT AUGUST
SECOND DID DAEL ADMIT THAT THE STORY WAS A HOAX. IF SUCH IS THE CASE
IT WOULD APPEAR EITHER SMITH OMWARNOLD MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALLS
SINCE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION AT THAT TIME THAT THE
MATERTAL FURNISHED TO CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTENANT BROWN WAS ACTUALLY
PARTS OF A FLYING DISC. IT WOULD ALSO APFEAR THAT DAHL AND CHRISMAN
DID NOT ADMIT THE HOAX TO THE ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS BECAUSE IF THEY
HAD DONE SO THE OFFICERS PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN THE ALLEGED FRAGMENTS
WITH THEM ON THEIR FATAL FLIGHT. THIS MATTER SHOULD BE CLEARED UP UPON
REINTERVIEW WITH DAHL AND CHRISMAN. WHEN THIS POINT CLARIFIED NO FURTHER
INVESTIGATION NECESSARY.
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¥rse Arthur Douglass Anderson
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A M This will acknowledge receipt of your letter dated
July 9, 1947,
After a careful review of the contents of this letier
it was ascertained that the inforsation contained therein womld
probably be of interest to the War Department, therefore,”] have
taken the liberty of furnishing this information to that agency.
Your interest in writing as you did is indeed appreciated.
Sincerely yours, )y
T — John Bdgar Hoover ]
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sage was repeated letter for letter,
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ECORDED éflf
¥rse As Co Sarbanis
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I Hcksville, Long Island, New York
ear lrs, Sarbanis:
I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter and enclosure dated
July 10, 19L7.
I have instructed the Special Agent in Charge of our New York Office
to have a Speelal Agent call upon you for the purpose of obtaining further
information in connection with this matter,
Your interest in calling this infomation to my attention is indeed
appreciated.
Sinecerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
‘ Director
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cc - New York (With ingc_min’;. There is no identifiable information in the
files of the Bureau concerning the writer of this letter. The
decoding of the message on the newspaper clipping was referred
to the Laboratory, who subsequently advised that the writer's
decoding was substantially correct, There is being set forth
below the results of the Laboratory's decoding:
®TIRED OF HUMAN NONSENSE WONT AWAIT ATOMIC
WAR DISRUPTING ORDER SOLAR SYSTEM SO SENT
FIYING DISKS AND WILL SET UP WORLD ORDER
UNDER MARTIANS LATE THIS YrARF.
The New York Office should interview the writer of this letter
A to ascertain from what newspaper the clipping in question was
obtained. Thereafter, contact should bg made with this newspaper C~
to ascertain the identity of the per@oncwho sent in the coded
kr. Tolson message. This individpal must be thoroughly interrogated to obtain
br. Clagr LT a1l Bsoas.\b]a fnformation surrounding tha.alleged receipt of the
ool et coded messagel. The Bureau /shonld be prékptly advised of the results
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TO : D. M. Lad@k DATE: August 18, 1947
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FROM : E. G. Fiteh /7 . B, A TR/
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Wr, Trady
Reference is made to your telephonic conversation with the 3y —
5 AR - ¥ % FEe % dr. PennTngton
Director on Wednesday of last week, at which time the Director advised ¥+ Quinn Tami
that Los Angeles papers carried under a Washington date line an article R A Wy
indicating the Soviet espionage agents in the United States are under 1 g
instruction to solve the flying discs. Such instructions were believed
to be based on the assumption that the flying discs were a secret weapon
of the Army or Navy. The article attributed the source of its information
to a Federal investigative agency,
Pursuant to your instructions, liaison representatives have contacted
the Headquarters of Military Intelligence, the Headquarters of the Air Forces
Intelligence, Office of Naval Intelligence and CIG. All agencies denied any
knowledge of the flying discs, as well as any knowledge of the basis for this
article,
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TO : Mr. D. M. Ladd ( DATE: August Ak, 1947 ¥
FROM : lir. J. P. Coyne L e —
SUBJECT: “FLYING DISCS / T —
There are attached two copies of a blind memorandum setting —7;:{
forth the facts relative to the reported air crash of two AAF officers e fom ———
investigating flying disc complaints. Wy —
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by the Liaison Section to the Air Force Intelligence.
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‘ SUBJECT: —FLYING DISCS
SECURITY MATTER - X
The following investigation was conducted at Canyonville and
Myrtle Creek, Oregon on August 12, 1947,
RAY VIRGII)HATFIELD, Route 1, Box 195, Roseburg, Oregon, operator
of the Tri City Airport, Myrtle Creek, Oregon, advised that on 8-6-47 at
approximately 6:15 PM while instructing a student in a teke off at the airport,
he noticed en object east of Myrtle Creek which appeared to be from 5,000 to
8,000 feet in the air. The sky was completely clear and visibility was
excellent. He stated that the object glistened and appeared to be of aluminium
sheeting. Upon noticing it he had immediately taken over the controles of the
plane which at that time was at 400 feet, and proceeded East in an attempt to
further observe the objecte He advised that the object appeared to be
climbing and traveling East at a high rate of speed which he estimated on a
computer in his plane as 1,000 miles per hour. He believed the object to be
spherical in shape and recalled noticing a darker object to the right the firet
time he saw it. He observed no vepor trails nor did he hear any noise from the
object. After sqe;ching the area for approximately 10 minutes HATFIELD and
his student NOBLEMCLLISON returned to the airport and made another landing and
teke off. In practically the same position at 400 feet altitude, both ELLISON
and HATFIELD saw the object in approximately the same position as seen before.
He estimated the sphere to be 30 feet in diameter and stated when they first
observed it it appeared to be so near he could fly right to it. However, the
object sighted the second time disappeared in the same manner as the first had.
It is noted that HATFIELD served as a Lieutenant JG in the U. S. Naval
Air Corps for about 3% years, flying constantly on the Atlantic submarine patrol.
He is a reputable citizen in Douglas County and is reported to be a qualified
pilot,
Mr. NOBLE ELLISON, Myrtle Creek, Oregon, verified the above information
as furnished by HATFIELD, stating that the first object sighted had been
called to his attention when HATFIELD took over the controls of the plane at
about 400 feet following his take off, but that they had both sighted the
object on the second take off at the same time. ELLISON described the object
as a "silver ball or balloon" which he believed to be 8 miles east of Myrtle
Creek, traveling East, and climbing very fast until it disappeared in approximately
45 seconds. ELLISON estimated the sphere as being 50 feet in diameter and
stated in his opinion the second object appeared to climb straight upe.
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vapot or trails, etce. and could hear no noise over the noise of his
own ship.
Investigation in the vicinity of Myrtle Creek, Oregon, has
failed to reveal any other person sighting the objects reported by
HATFIELD and ELLISON, No further investigation is being conducted.
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FLYING DISCS. BETWEEN NINE THIRTY AND NINE FORTY FIVE PM LAST NIGHT,
AUGUST NIMETEENTH, MR. AND MRS. H. H7{HEDSTROM, THIRD AVENUE NORTH,
TWIN FALLS, IDAHO, WHILE SITTING ON THE FRONT PORCH WITH MRS. HENRY
¥SCHULTZ, OBSERVED AN OBJECT RESEMBLING A FLYING SAUCER TRAVELING VERY
RAPIDLY FROM THE SOUTHWEST TO THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THIS CITY. ABOUT
TEN MINUTES LATER, ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS SAW TEN SIMILAR OBJECTS
PROCEEDING RAPIDLY IN THE SAME DIRECTION IN THE FORM OF A TRIANGLE.
AS THIS GROUP OF OBJECTS WAS ABOUT TO DISAPPEAR IN THE OVERCAST SKY,
THREE OF THE OBJECTS ON THE LEFT FLANK PEELED OFF AND PROCEEDED IN A
NORTHERLY DIRECTION. THE REMAINING OBJECTS IN THE TRIANGULAR FORMATION
APPEARED TO CLOSE RANKS AND CONTINUE IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION.
Y ARHREE TO FIVE MINUTES LATER THESE INDIVIDUALS SAWANOTHER GRS GROUP
AN\ . B i Ll o
¢ é{\THPEE 0BJECTS PROCEEDING IN TAE SOME RESECIION AGAIN IN THE snngis
:jk\ifilANGLE. THREE TO FIVE MINUTES LATER INFORMANTS OBSERVED ANOTHE
N N GrouP coNSISTING "0f FROM FIVE TO SIX OBJECTS, AGAIN IN TRIANGULR
§‘Q FORMATION, PROCEEDING RAPIDLY IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECT%iN. A FEW
N\ MINUTES LATER A LARGE GROUP OF OBJECTS ESTIMATED AT Bi%*‘EN THIRTY FIVE
AND FIFTY FLEW OVER THE CEITY IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION, AGAIN IN
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TRIANGULAR FORMATION., BETWEEN TWENTY AND TWENTY FIVE MINUTES AFTER
THE LAST GROUP WAS OBSERVED, SIMILAR OBJECTS WERE NOTED COMING BACK
OVER THE CITY VERY RAPIOLY AND PROCEEDING IN A SOUTHWESTERLY DIRECTION.
‘AT THIS TIME INFORMANTS STATED THE OBJECTS APPEARED IN GROUPS OF THREE,
| FIVE AND SEVENe AT THIS POINT MRSe. HEDSTROM CALLED DETECTIVE RICHARD
FRAZIER OF THE TWIN FALLS PD, A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, WHO ACCOMPANIED BY
Me E. ROUNDTREE AND RICHARD SCOTT, ALSO MEMBERS OF THE TWIN FALLS PD,
PROCEEDED TO THE HEDSTROM HOME WHERE THEY OBSERVED A GROUP OF TWELVE
iOBJECTS FLYING IN FORMATION OVER THE CITY IN A SOUTHWESTERLY DIRECTION.
\INFOQHANTS, ALL REPUTABLE CITIZENS THIS COMMUNITY, UNABLE TO ESTIMATE
lHEIGHT OF OBJECTS OR SPEED, BUT CLAIMED THEY RESEMBLED ILLUMINATED
[FLYING SAUCERS. THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE OF THE OPINION THAT THE OBJECTS
OBSERVED WERE NOT THE LANDING LIGHTS OF AIRPLANES' NOR SHdEIHC STARS.
NONE OF THESE OBJECTS WERE SEEN TO COME TO EARTH NEAR TWIN FALLS AND
NONE APPEARED TO BE FLYING IN AN ARC. NONE OF THESE OBSERVERS HEARD
ANY SOUND AS THE O@#K ABOVE OBJECTS PASSED OVER THE CITY. INVESTIGATION
CONTINUING IN LINE WITH BUREAU INSTRUCTIONS CONTAINED BUREAU BULLETIN
NO, FORTY TWO, PARAGRAPH B, DATED JULY THIRTY LAST. IN EVENT BUREAU
IN POSSESSION OF ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING EXPERIMENTAL ACTIVITIES ON
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PART OF ARMY AIR FORCES WHICH MAY EXPLAIN THESE PHENOMENA, ADVICE WOULD
BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. IT IS BELIEVED CONTINUED APPEARANCE OF SUCH
\ \\OBJECTS WITHOUT OFFICIAL EXPLANATION MAY RESULT IN HYSTERIA OR PANIC
‘\kTUIM FALLS, IDAHO.
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SAC BUTTE
FLYING DISCS. EXTENSIVE INQUIRIES AT ARMY AIR FORCES REVEAL THAT NO RESEARCH
OR EXPERIMENTS WERE BEING CONDUCTED BY AAF IN THE VICINITY OF TWIN FALLS, IDAHO
ON OR ABOUT AUGUST NINETEEN. IN THE EVENT YOUR SOURCES IN THE ARMY, NAVY OR
AIR FORCES INDICATE OTHERWISE ADVISE BUREAU PROMPTLY.
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SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
eference is made the teletype from the Butte Field Division
dated August 20, 1947, in the above captioned matter. 3
In accordance with your request, this matter was checked with e o SR
Special Agent F. P. Criffee that extensive inquiries with'wthe Army Air ™57 Tttt
Colonel Garrett stated that he had no information which would throw any
light on the matter reported in the teletype.
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It is suggested this memorandum be routed to the Internal Security
Section to the attention of Supervisor Fletcher,
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64 . '
Ofl?ce Memorandum + vNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
T Director DATE: September 5, 1947
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SUBJECT: ~FLYING DISCS \
SECURITY MATTER - X Vs \
Reference is made to my teletype dated August 15, 1947 advising that
a Mr, JORUTBARTLETT of Agate Beach, Oregon had reported on August 7, 1947 that he
sighted what he believed to be a disc, Mr. JOHN BARTL, instead of BARTLEIT, now
residing in Newport, Oregon was interviewed by Special Agent ROBERT J. PETTYJOHN.
Mr., BARTL stated that on August 7, 1947 he was residing at Agate Bgach, Oregon and
that his house was very near the ocean beach; that at about 12:30 A, M. he was
awakened by his son coming in and that while awake he noticed a bright glow of
light across the sky out over the ocean., He stated that he immediately thought of
flying discs and thought this might be one of the discs.
Mr. BARTL went on to say that he had no idea as to the shape or size of
this object but that it appeared to be about five miles out over the ocean and
. that he was able to see it for about 15 to 30 seconds., He further stated that
due to the darkness he could tell nothing about the speed of this object but thought
it was traveling a great deal faster than any airplane he had ever seen. He
informed that this glow of light was somewhat similar to "The Northern Light" which
sometimes appears in the sky but of course not nearly as large and that it appeared
to be going up and down, that is fluctuating in altitude as it traveled along. He
stated it disappeared in the west, either falling into the ocean or disappearing
over the horizon. He could give no other information concerning this object of
light reported by him as possibly being a flying disc. Mr. BARTL has an Agate and
Myrtlewood shop in Newport. 4// 3
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Dear iMr:u. Williama:
OV A lour evier o Au, uet l\., A./-:/’ Aase oeen
recetved, ond I am moat appreciative of the thoughi-
Julnese which prompted you to communicate with me.
For your information, no reward has been offered by
gny Ue Je Government Agency JSor the location of
Yriying saucers." I regret that I am unable to be
of assistence in thie instance.
Jincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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TO : Director, FBI DATE: August 20, 1947
FROM ): SAC, Springfield
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SUBJECT{ 'FLYING DISC
Reference is made to Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947, dated
July 30, 1947 re the above.
For the Bureau's information a lirs. JUNE[ANDERSON of Saybrook,
T1linois reparted to this office the finding of a flying disc
in her front yard at 6:00 AM. on July 26, 1947,
It appears from investigation conducted by an Agent of this
office that the stability of JUNE ANDERSON is questionable, How-
ever the alleged flying disc was obtained and it is apparently
the concoction of some of the juveniles in the area. It is an
old wooden platter, which has assembled on it a silver plate, a
spark plug, a timer, and some old brass tubing. Photographs
were taken of the same and there are six views enclosed herewith.
No doubt this was someone's idea of a prank.
The disc is presently being retained by the Springfield Office and
will be retained pending receipt of Bureau advice relative to its
destruction. The thought in retaining it was that perhaps the
Bureau might desire to have it transmitted to Washington for any
novel value it might havge
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Photographs of "Flying Disc" found
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FLYING DISC 9 §
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€4 " that you contact the appropriate Army of ficials and in the event they are not
interested in receiving this alleged flying disc, it may be destroyed,
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Office Memorandum - uNiTED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : DIRECTOR DATE: 9-13-47
QoM : SAC, PORTLAND
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
SECURITY MATTER = X
Reference is made to my teletype dated 9-4-47, advising that
Mrs. RAYMOND’fifiPUIS, Oswego, Oregon, was reported to have seen a number
of discs on 9-3-47 above Oswego.
Mrs. DUPUIS was interviewed and described the object which she
has observed as follows:
While entertaining her 7 year old son and 10 year old neighbor
child on her lawn, at about noon, Mrs. DUPUIS and the children noticed
approximately two dozen round silver objects high in the sky. Mrs. DUPUIS
stated she believed these objects to have been platter shaped rather than
spherical and to have been considerably larger than an airplane of the cub
type which was flying in a different portion of the sky at the same time.
She advised that these objects appeared to her to be at a great distance
and constructed of some white metallic material,
Mrs., DUPUIS' attention was first drawn to the objects by an ex-
planation from one of the children to the effect that the airplane was sky=-
writing. The objects were grouped in approximately an arc about level with
the sun and to the left of the sun as viewed by Mrs. DUPUIS., They did not
change positions during the 3 or 4 minutes which she pbserved them but some
of the larger of the objects appeared to rotate rapidly in the manner of a
wheel, One of the objects was separated by considerable distance from the
main group and while she was watching Mrs. DUPUIS states this object began
to fall and floated slowly downward until it was no longer visable because
- of trees on the horizon.
Mrse. DUPUIS advised that she continued to observe the remaining
objects until her eyes began to be affected by the brightnesé of the sky
whereupon she went into her house and is unable to state whgf became of the
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O{fice Memorandum + uNiTED STATES GOVERNMENT
. TO : MR. D. M. IADD (/~4F DATE: September 8, 1947
{ FROM : E. G. Fiteh ¥r. E. Ao TER__
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SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS T —
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carsof =
Reference is made to my memorandum to you in the above captioned . ”m“sa—~
matter dated August 22, 1947, which indicates that Special Agent Griffee %1 ”gi’m-»:
of the Liaison Section had contacted Lieutenant Colomel G. D. Garrett, Jr., M qutm fem—
of the Air Forces Intelligence at which time Colonel Garrett advised that ¥ias Satm——
the Amy Air Forces were corducting no research or experiments in the s
vicinity of Twin Falls, Idaho, on or about August 19, 1947. Colonel (}armtfl—"’m/ -
at that time indicated to Mr. Griffee that he would check with the Amy area F’f ,'{FZ
in order to ascertain whether or not they were conducting any experiments in “‘“]""' 73
this vicinity at that time. b 1.
Colonel Garrett has subsequently advised Mr. Reynolds that he has
,J-1 been advised by the Army area that no such experiments were being corducted
! in the area of Twin Falls, Idaho, on or about August 19, 1947, which would
J/ in any way throw any light on the matter reported in the teletype.
RECOMMENDATION
It is recommerded this memorandum be forwarded to Mr. Fletqhér
of the Imternal Security Section. /”
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September 25, 1947
lr. A. Courtney Parker
Superintendent of Schools
South Royalton, Vermomt
Dear Nr. Parker:
I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated
September 17, 1947, An Agent of our Albany, New York, Office
will call upon you in the near future for any additional in=-
formation in your possession.
Your courtésy and interest in bringing this matter
to my attention are indeed appreciated,
Sineerely yours,
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John Edgar Hoover
Director
cc = Albany (separate cover letter)
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Director, FBI
FIXING DISCS
A. Courtney Parker, Informant
Attached hereto are coples of an incoming commmication from A,
Courtney Parker, Superintendent of Schodls, South Boyalton, Vermont, and
copies of acknowledgment of same,
It is requested that an Agent of your Office call on Mr, Parker
to obtain any additional information in his possession concerning flying
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ROYALTON : TUNBRI
A. COURTNEY PARKER, Superintendent
SOUTH ROYALTON
September 17, 1947
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Washington, D. C.
Dear Sirs:
At 3:40 P.M. to=-day I observed a so-called flying
saucer. This occurred while I was half way up Rix Ledges
north of Lebanon, N. H. As I was intently watching the
honey bees circling in a patch of sky after leaving my
bee box my attention was called to a floating object that
appeared to be as large as a tennis ball and as white as
cotton batting. This object approached rapidly and nolselessly
from the East and was followed closely by another object
that appeared in size and shape like a saucer which maintained
a constant angle of inclination to the ball and followed it
at a constant distance. Tnhe two objects made an angle with
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for more than a minute when I lost them in the glare of the
sune
If T nad seen this in tne night sky with my six inch
telescope I woule have thought that the planets Venus and
Saturn nad suddenly gotten together and were traveling
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thereon read: Mot Nento
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called "d iscs.”
You mre not to mention the contents Oi this
letter over the air, nor TO anj individual other than officials
patriotism would Trank with your own, & who might donate $10,000
I have had respectful attention ITO the
Col., Herbert C. Gee, Comm. VITlcCeTr,
L0 Alamos AT ic Projectd,
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vanta e, N.M.
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Ass't. to LE. Gen. Nathan ¥. Twining,
AAF lMateriel Command,
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Ass't to Colonel Bunker, Commn. Off.
Kirtland Field,
@Gen, rPatrick Hurley, (Former Ambassador to China,)
1clV Dorenam bild'g. (ALSO ognva 2e, olile )
Washingtay , D.C
And through the courtesy of Gen., Patri Hurlev,
a letler Irom Sec. OI Wgpr Hobert Patterson, War Uep't, Washingtong; D.
All were highly interested, appreciative, with the
¢ 3 \ vt o 3y " 1 o ine =7 + aha w
eneral tvrena ol congtacts obelng, ANl1s 18 1Ilne., 0 Irignt anead,
| proceed with., No budgets seemed to allow fo the unexpected, elusive
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has been contacted by mail for a ppropriation¥, but even if this
only reguires one more week, it mayv be too late.
verity v contacts (excuse repetition word contact) duri the ast
Dr. Norris Bradbury, Scientific Head of Los Alamos, a Colonel Gee,
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might further my own work.
If you ask of the above persons, to ascertain whether or
notv 1 have made serious, materially valuable contributions, which
may indicate much scientifically...... and which, if action can be
please make inquiries quietly, and as promptly as convenient.
out siwmplv to act.
Vo not mention in any manner, until release bv the War
Dep't, even the receipt of this letter, except to the above persons,
or proper govermnment officials there. Or, to one whom vou know will
make a dongtion.
Ferhaps your savest bet would be simply to telephone the
¥BI there, ar 1eT Them Telephone Francis Finley here for verification.
I promise you an exclusive, behind the scenes storv hen,
and if, the Wgr Dep't releases the material nationallv. Memnatime,
your action now may save your own life, and that of others who mav
have wondered what a "disc" is.
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Rest assured I have all the pw per scientific anc overnmenta
Proper background to discuss the subject, secure tThe Ifurther Ileld
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dsta I nov need, explain it technically, and secure proper action,
provided I am given the means to do s0.
1l regret that 1 cannot be more specific now, but dutyv
O country rests above,
I have met before with the mental reaction, "What? A
woman handaling this type material? " And my signature beXfow will
propapbply evoxKxe Tle same response IITO0 vYoue. So I assure you, Ves,
it is a woman who is coming in with the information which men have
one out to seek. And doing the proper thi about it.
Most respectfully,
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P.S5. Am a Iormer newspaper person, and very proud of it.
Again, I must ask vou not to mention even the town fro
vhichh this letter comes, as vou mayv be endangering lives to
SO0 S0. Simply ascertain my contributions, get some monev to
budget, if ne were not so close himself.)
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STANDARD FORM NO. 84
Ofiice M&/’Qi"fl{’ld%m * UNITECHFATES GOVERNMENT
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FROM : T P Re
SUBJECT: Letter and material received from \\f"}.’\;.; g s
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The attached letiter dated August 14, 1947 from Mrs. Mixon to- i _;7;
was received in the Laboratory on August 19, 1947. The material which ,,j‘,\" N
soap stones,
Inasmuch as the Investigative and Security Divisions might possibly '
e interested in this matter, I request that you advise me as to the final
should be made to Mrs. Mixon's letter.
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suBJECT: L-FLYING SAUCER e
Reference is made to the memorandum from Mr, Baughman to Mr, o e
Harbo, dated August 28, 1947, requesting advice as to the final disposi- (3'{3 s ———
tio::;cof‘ material su?mit?ed b¥ Mrs., er, Estill, South Carolina. // Y/'//u’[r(“/‘
It is noted that this material, which lrs. Mixon reported to be a part of
a flying saucer, has been identified as powdered soap stones, 1;/ /“ o
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It is recommended that the material be returned to Mrs, Mixon 3
along with a letter advising that such has been identified as powdered soap
stones,
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1% Memorandum - uNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TOI/V : Director, FBI DATE: Septajer 4y 1947
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SUBJECT: REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS ) o, .
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ATTENTION: ASSISTANT DIRECTOR D. M. ILADD ;I}/
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Reference is made to San Francisco letter dated August 28, 1947, )
and to Bureau teletype to Phoenix dated August 30, 1947.
With reference to the above matter, I desire to point out that the ;
letter of reference from San Francisco did not reach Phoenix until September
2, 1947. g :
On August 29, 1947, a Mr. GEORGE FUGATE, JR. called at the Phoenix
: office and exhibited credentials reflecting that he is a representative of A-2;
Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California. He also exhibited orders emanating :
from the office of Colonel DONALD SPRINGER, A-2, Fourth Air Force, Hamilton Field,
California, instructing him to proceed to Phoenix immediately and contact the ¥FBI
office, at which time a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation would*
" be designated to accompany him to interview WILLIAmES, who had previously = =
‘weported the photographing of a flying disc. The orders further indicated that
the San Francisco office of the FBI was transmitting further information re- ¢ =
lating to Mr. FUGATE'S mission. !
ASAC HEBER M. CLEGG telephonically communicated with SAC HARRY KIMBALE -
of the San Francisco office and Mr. KIMBALL verified the above infomation and ™
stated that a letter had been directed to the Fhoenix office suggesting that the
Phoenix office assist any representative who called from A-~2 in the interrogation
of RHODES. SAC KIMBALL stated that in connection with flying discs, he had main- °
tained close contact with Colonel SPRINGER and that close cooperation existed.
He further advised that many reports of flying discs had been received at San
Francisco and that a full discussion concerning the results of inquiries had «",-g,,..‘,‘
been held with Colonel SPRINGER. gD/
: In connection with flying disc investigations, . I&MBALL advised
he had maintained close touch with the Bureau and had apparently handled these
matters in accordance with Bureau policy.
In view of the above, Special Agent J. BAILEY BROWER of the Phoenix
office was permitted to work with Mr. FUGATE in the interview of WILLTAM ALBERT
~RAODES. The results of the inquiry are set out hereunder.
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WILLIAM ALBERT RHODES, 4333 N. 14th Street, Phoenix, Arizona, owns
and maintains the Panoramic Research Laboratory and Hobby Shop at this address,
and he related the following as occurring on the afternoon of July 7, 1947: *
A storm had occurred in Phoenix on the afternmoon of July 7, 1947,
and the clouds were at approximately 5000 feet, the color of which was grey
and they resembled dense cumulus. A fifteen mile per hour wind was blowing.
At approximately 5 p.m. on that date, Mr. RHODES was walking from his home
to the Hobby Shop and he heard a noise resembling a P-80 aircraft, apparently
coming in a westerly direction. Upon searching the skies he observed to the
northeast what appeared to be an odd shaped ship. He described this ship as
being possibly 20 to 30 feet in diameter, traveling at an estimated speed of
100 miles per hour. It appeared to be making a spiral in a small radius of
possibly one-half to three quarters of a mile. RHODES stated the sound which
he first heard was no longer audible; that he hurriedly procured a 120 Brownie
Box Camera from his shop, and as the aircraft completed the first circle he
obtained a photograph. As the ship started on the second turn, it was in a
northwesterly direction from his place and he again snapped a photograph, which
more closely resembled the shape of the ship than photograph #1, this being
designated as Exhibit II, as submitted to the Bureau with letter dated August
4y 1947, by the Office of Assistant Chief of Staff A-2 Intelligence, Hamilton
Field, California. RHODES further described the direction of the ship by
stating that instead of completing the lefthand downward spiral the ship banked
to the right and disappeared into the clouds. He stated that just as it banked,
he had snapped the second photograph, Exhibit IT.
At the last point, which was at the time the ship made this turn, Mr.
RHODES estimated it to be between 1,000 and 2,000 feet high. He further des-
cribed the appearance of this ship as closely resembling a picture which appeared
on the front cover of the May, 1947, issue of the Mechanics Illustrated Magazine,
the only difference noted by Mr. RHODES being that the ship appeared to be fly-
ing backward.
Mr. RHODES also related that he did not associate the appearance of
this ship with the numerous reports of flying discs. He related, however, that
after a three minute interview with newspaper reporters the story that appeared
in the local papers was "blown up" to the extent that he, RHODES, barely recog=-
nized the information furnished by him. Mr. RHODES explained that the afore-
mentioned dimensions and distances were only estimated, pointing out, that his
previous experience probably assisted him in making fairly close estimates. He
related that he had been doing experimental work for the past ten years. He
also stated he was employed at the Naval Ordnance Laboratory, Washington, D. C.
during the early part of World War II and left there the beginning of 1942.
Upon his return to Phoenix, he was employed at Falcon Field near Phoenix which
was leased by the British Govermment for training purposes. He instructed in
instrument training, aircraft identification and gunnery practice. He explained
that his hobbies have to do with science, physics, radio, electronics and astronomy.
He produced a model which he had made of a radio controlled airplane. He related
that most of his work consists of building transformers, but it is also necessary
for him to depend upon his music ability for his livlihood.
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In explaining the results of photographing the ship, Mr. RHODES
stated that he was surprised that the object appeared dark on a light back-
ground; that he fully expected that the object would be light on a dark back-
ground. He described the light spot which appears in the center of the object
(Exhibit II) as being a green house. RHODES insisted that the ship made no
noise that was audible to his ear and he was unable to detect the presence of
any propeller. He also related that after the newspaper release over Radio
Station KTAR, wherein statements were made that he, RHODES, had stated Army
officials were studying the photographs, and that it was a top secret, he
attempted to determine the source of this release and the Radio station finally
told him that it was a United Press release from Washington, D. C.
The following description of RHODES was obtained from observation
and interrogation:
Age 30
Date birth 12-29-16
Place birth Garden City, Kansas
Height 6' 3
Weight 155 pounds
Eyes Blue
Hair Brown
Education Phoenix Union High School
Marital status Married- one son
It should be stated that at the time of interview with RHODES, Mr.
BROWER identified himself as an agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and
exhibited his credentials. However, pursuant to a request from Mr. FUGATE, he
was introduced only as a representative of the United States government. His
exact official connection was not made known to Mr. RHODES. Agent BROWER advised
that he felt it was a peculiar procedure, but it was not his business. However,
at the conclusion of the interview, Mr. FUGATE requested Mr. RHODES to furnish
hinm with the negatives and RHODES stated he would be glad to do so, but they
were not in his immediate possession, and he would deliver them to the FBI the
following morning. Mr. RHODES requested that the negatives be returned to him,
Agent BROWER states that to this request, Mr. FUGATE made no reply. Agent EROWER
states that after leaving Mr. RHODES he asked FUGATE if the negatives would be
returned to Mr. RHODES and FUGATE stated that he doubted very much that they would
be returned. Mr. BROWER then advised Mr. FUGATE that before he, BROWER, would
accept these negatives that RHODES must be advised of Mr. FUGATE'S identity and
also advised that the negatives, if turned over to Mr. FUGATE, would not be
returned to him.
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In view of which, on the morning on August 30, 1947, when Mr. RHODES
called at the Phoenix office tod eliver the negatives, they were accepted only
after he was advised that they were being given to Mr. FUGATE, a representative
of the Army Air Foree Intelligence, United States Army, and that there was little,
if any, chance of his getting the negatives back. Mr. RHODES turned the negatives
over to this office with the full understanding that they were being given to the
Army and that he would not get them back.
The Phoenix office did not receive the Bureau teletype of reference
instructing that no joint investigation should be conducted until after the
matter had been handled.
Inasmuch as military authorities have complete knowledge of the results
of the interview with Mr. RHODES no copy of this report is being designated for
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gADQUARTERS, ARMY AIR FORCE’
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5 SEP1947
Director
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Department of Justice
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Sir:
Attention: Lieison Section
In answer to a verbal request of your Mr.
S. W. Reynolds, a complete survey of research activities
discloses that the Army Air Forces has no project with
the characteristics similar to those which have been
associated with the Flying Discs.
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Division of the Alr Forces the possibility that the flyiang discs or s 1
saucers are in fact a project of the Army Alr Forces., It should be noted ;
that Colonel Garrett agreed with this possidility, At that time Mr, Reynolds
pointed out to Colonel Garrett the possidle embarrassing position of the
Intelligence Division of the Air Forces if it was sudsequently ascertained
that this was the truth, especially simce they had requested the assistance
of the Bureau in the captioned matter,
Oolonel Garrett advised Mr, Reynolds that he would imstitute a
further search, and he has now advised that a letter was addressed by Major
General McDonald, Director of the Intelligence Division of the Alir Forces, to
the Research and Development Section of the Air Forces.
There 1s attached hereto a letter addressed to the Director, dated
September 5, 1947, from Brigadier General George F. Schulgen, which states that
a complete survey of research activities discloses that the Army Alr Forces
have no project with characteristics similar to those which have been assoclated
with the flying disecs.
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Refer San Francisco letter dated September 4, 1947.
FRED WeCTJOHNSON, Globe Hotel, 106 NW, First Avenue, Portland, reported
without consulting any records that on June 24, 1947, while prospecting at a
point in the Cascade Mountains approximately five thousand feet from sea level,
during the afternoon he noticed a reflection, looked up, and saw a disc pro-
ceeding in a southeasterly direction. Immediately upon sighting this object
he placed his telescope to his eye and observed the disc for approximately
forty-five to sixty seconds. He remarked that it is possible for him to pick
up an object at a distance of ten miles with his telescope. At the time the
disc was sighted by Mr., JOHNSON it was banking in the sun, and he observed
five or six similar objects but only concentrated on one. He related that
they did not fly in any particular formation and that he would estimate their
height to be about one thousand feet from where he was standing. He said the
object was about thirty feet in diameter.and appeared to have a tail. It made
no noise,
According to JOHNSON he remained in the vicinity of the Cascades
for several days and then returned to Portland and noted an article in the
local paper which stated in effect that a man in Boise, Idaho, had sighted a
similar object but that authorities had disclaimed any knowledge of such an
object. He said he communicated with the Army for the sole purpose of attempt-
ing to add credence to the story furnished by the man in Boise.
JOHNSON also related that on the occasion of his sighting the objects
on June 24, 1947 he had in his possession a combination compass and watch. He
noted particularly that immediately before he sighted the disc the compass
acted very peculiar, the hand waving from one side to the dbher, but that this
condition corrected itself immediately after the discs had passed out of sight.
Informant appeared to be a very reliable individual who advised that
he had been a prospector in the states of Montana, Washington, and Oregon for
the past forty years.
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Special Agent S. W. Reynolds of the Liaison Section, while dis- gi.funlgg:f*-:
cussing the above captioned phenomena with Lieutenant ColoneX Garrett e ———
of the Air Forces Intelligence, expressed the possibility that flying Miss Gendy ____
\(Hldiscs were, in fact, a very highly classified experiment of the Army or k‘/
Navy. Mr. Reynolds was very much surprised when Colcnel Garrett not onl o e
agreed that this was a possibility, but confidentially stated it was his \ A
personal opinion that such was a probability. Colonel Garrett indicated , 0V
confidentially that a Mr.#€arroll, who is a scientist attached to the Airg !{,P?/
Forces Intelligence, was of the same opinion. (Vo
Colonel Garrett stated that he based his assumption on the
following: He pointed out that when flying objects were reported seen over
Sweden, the "high brass" of the War Department exerted tremendous pressure
on the Air Forces Intelligence to conduct research and collect information
in an effort to identify these sightings. Colonel Garrett stated that, in
contrast to this, we have reported sightings of unknown objects over the
United States, and the "high brass" appeared to be totally unconcerned.
He indicated this led him to believe that they knew enough about these
objects to express no concern, Colonel Garrett pointed out further that the
objects in question have been seen by many individuals who are what he
terms "trained observers," such as airplane pilots., He indicated also that
several of the individuals are reliable members of the community. He stated
it is his conclusion that these individuals saw something., He stated the
above has led him to come to the conclusion that there were objects seen
which somebody in the Government knows all aboute
Mr, Reynolds pointed out to Colonel Garrett that if it is a fact
experimentations are being conducted by the United States Government, then it
does not appear reasonable to request the FBI to spend money and precious
/| | time conducting inquiries with respect to this matter. Colonel Garrett stated
that he agreed with Mr. Reynolds in this regard and indicated that it would be ’4
extremely embarrassing to the Air Forces Intelligence if it later is learned e
that these flying discs are, in fact, an experiment of the United States
Government,e
Mr, Reynolds subsequently discussed this matter with Colonel L. R.
Forney of the Intelligence Division of the War Department. Colonel Forney
stated that he had discussed the matter previously with General Chamberlin.
Colonel Forney indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he has the assurance of General
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Chamberlin and General Todd that the Army is conducting no experimentations
with anything which could possibly be mistaken for a flying disc.
Colonel Garrett of the Air Forces Intelligence subsequently contacted
lir. Reynolds and indicated that he had discussed this matter with General
Schulgen of the Army Air Forces. General Schulgen had previously assured both
¥r, Reynolds and Colonel Garrett that to the best of his knowledge and in-
formation no experiments were being undertaken by the Government which could be
mistaken for flying discs. Colonel Garrett indicated to Mr. Reynolds that
he had pointed out his beliefs to General Schulgen and had mentioned the
1possibility of an embarrassing situation arising between the Air Forces
{{ Intelligence and the FBI. General Schulgen agreed with Colonel Garrett
{lthat a memorandum would be prepared for the signature of General McDonald,
1142, to General LeMay, who is in charge of Research and Development in the
]lAir Corps. Colonel Garrett indicated that this memorandum will set forth
iithe characteristics of the objects seen by various reliable individuals,
||The memorandum will then request General lLeMay to indicate whether or not
5‘any experiments are being undertaken by the Air Forces which could possibly
[]be connected with any of the observed phenomena. Colonel Garrett stated
| that when a reply is received from General LeMay, a communication will be
addressed to the Bureau,
Mr. Reynolds will follow this matter closely with Colonel Garrett
and General Schulgen so that the Bureau will be promptly advised of all
information regarding the flying discs, especially any information indicating
that they are, in fact, an experiment of some Governmental agency.
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O]fice Memm%dum e UNITED STA'l!S GOVERNMENT
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‘ Reference is made to the memorandum to you from the Liaison \r: PenningEor——
Section dated July 21, 1947, setting forth a request from Colonel Taias B
Golbranson of the Intelligence Division of the War Department for the fig;h:z;e—__‘_
Bureau to conduct investigation to determine the origin of the flying (i_’__*—_;
OBSERVAT TONS3s W
It is felt that the situation regarding these flying saucers and
flying discs is very similar to the situation which was previously encountered
by the Bureau during the past war in handling complaints arising out of the
sighting of Japanese baloons. You will recall that at the inception of these
complaints the Bureau conducted considerable investigation and located numerous
baloons as a cooperative measure for the Army and that after considerable work
had been done, the Army then informed that these were military weapons and that
they would take over the handling of these completely. This they did and in an
extremely short time issued a big press release as to the splendid work of the
Army in locating these Japanese baloons. From the information available thus
far, it does not appear that these discs should be treated other than as a ;'
military weapon. Certainly the Bureau has no way to determine what experimentsff //
the Arny and Navy are conducting and whether such might be arising out of | \
experiments being conducted by them nor do we have any way of determining how | |
far the Russians have progressed in certain experiments and whether such mi ght| §
be the results of experiments by the Russian Army. It short, it would certainly
| appear that this is a military situation and should be handled strictly ty X :
jmilitary authorities. 1 d
In this connection it might be pointed out that our present Portland
case arose out of the fact that two Army Intelligence officers were returning
from an interview of two individuals who reportedly had seen flying discs., If
}Eue Army Intelligence officers are handling some of these interviews, it is be-
ieved that they should be handling all of these interviews, and it is not
believed that the Bureau should be expending its precious manpower on these com-
?laints.;vh ich thus far have no connection with our Russian espionage program,
fne'..m.llt,‘ary :autnavr;blos cgr?alnl‘,' are ‘bc?,ber'eqplpped to know what they are
looking for than we are and have more facilities for handling any material which
J;_L 1s necessary tc_> examine as a result of its belng reported as a remant of a
|flying disc. Tt is believed that the Bureau is merely playing bird-dog for the
Army by using our manpower to run out these complaints on flying discs.
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there is attached a letter to the Chicapgo Office asking that3#he§FEondudythe
requested investigation. py
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lirge Joseph H. Ryan
Bieber, California
Dear lrgs. Ryans
Receipt is acknowledged of your letter
dated September 19, 1947, requesting information
concerning the origin of the "Flying Saweer . ..,
Mystery”. Shy
In this connection, you are advised
that in view of a long established policy I am
unable to furnish the results of investigations
by this Bureau to other than Governmental sources.
For this reason I regret that I am unable to
answer your question, btut I appreciate your
interest in writing to me in this regard.
Sincerely yours,
John EBdgar Hoover
Director
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DAHL AND FRED CHRISMAN, -TACOMA, IN SIGNED STATEMENT INSTANT DATE
STATE THAT IN EARLY PART OF JUNE, LAST, THE'PICKED UP SOME STRANGE
ROCK FORMATIONS FROM A GRAVEL PIT, MAURI ISLAND, WASHINGTON. THEY STATE
A CIGAR BOX OF THESE ROCK FORMATIONS THEY SENT TO RAYXPALMER, EDITOR OF
VENTURE MAGAZINE IN EVANSTON, ILLINOIS. THEY STATE PLAMER IS ALSO
EDITOR OF FANTASY MAGAZINE, CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. THEY STATE THEY REQUESTED
PALMER ONLY TO MAKE A CHEMICAL ANALYSIS OF THE ROCK FORMATION.
DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE PALMER LATER WROTE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL SAMPLES
STATING HE HAD BEEN UNABLE TO ANALYZE THE MATERIAL. DAHL AND CHRISMAN
STATE PALMER, A FEW DAYS AFTER THE FLYING DISK STORIES STARTED THE LATTER
PART OF JUNE, LAST, CONTACTED THEM BY PHONE AT TACOMA, WASHINGTON, SAYING
HE WOULD PAY FOR AN EXCLUSIVE STORY IF THE MATERIAL WHMICH THEY HAD SENT
HIM WAS FRAGMENTS OF A FLYING DISK. DAHL STATES HE WROTE PALMER A
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HAMILTON FIELD, CALIFORNIA, AND CAPTAIN EMIL HeASMITH OF UNITED AIR
LINES, SEATTLE, WASHINGTON TO ATTEND THE MEETING. DAHL AND CHRISMAN
CLAIM THEY TOLD THE INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS, CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTEN-
ANT BROWN, AS WELL AS KENNETH ARNOLD AND EMIZ(SMITH EXACTLY HOW THEY GOT
THE ROCK FORMATIONS AND THAT THEY HAD NO CONNECTION WITH ANY FLYING DISK.
DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE THEY FURNISHED SOME OF THE ROCK FORMATION TO THE
INTELLIGENT OFICERS AS SAMPLES. CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTEANT BROWN
LEFT TACOMA, WASHINGTON IN A B TWENTY FIVE TO RETURN TO HAMILTON FIELD,
CALIFORNIA ABOUT TWO THIRTY Ae. M. AUGUST ONE, LAST, AND WERE KILLED
WHEN THEIR PLANE CRASHED AT KELSO, WASHINGTON, AFTER THE LEFT ENCINE
BURNED OUT AN EXHAUST STACK WHICH IN TURN CAUGHT THE LEFT WING ON FIRE
AND IT BROKE OFF. THE CREW CHIEF AND EACH OFFICER PARACHUTED TO SAFETY.
ZLHI?/QOTEL, ASSOCIATED PRESS WIREMAN, TACOMA, ADVISED THAT TWO OR THREE
DAYS AFTER THE FLYING DISK STORIES STARTED, HE CONTACTED DAHL TO CHECK
A STORY THE SEATTLE POST INTELLIGENCER HAD CGOTEN Fif THE FIRE CHIEF AT
HARBOR, WASHINGTON, TO THE EFFECT THAT DAHL HAD SOME FLYING DISK
FRAGMENTS. AT THIS TIME DAHL ADMITTED TO VOGEL THE ENTIRE STORE WAS
FALSE. DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE ARNOLD WAS PAID BY RAY PALMER OF THE
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TO TACOMA, WASHINGTON AND OBTAIN A STORY FROM THEM REGARDING THE
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THIRTY FIRST, LAST, ARNOLD CALLED PALMER AT A No FIVE TWO NAUGHT NAUGT,
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BOISE, IDAHO, COLLECT. ON AUGUST ONE, LAST, ARNOLD CALLED PALMER AT
DEARBORN FIVE TWO NAUGHT NAUGHT CHICAGO, COLLECT, AND EMIL SMITH CALLED
LLflUK/fbDDY AT DEARBORN TWO THREE TWO THREE. ON .JULY THIRTY FIRST AND
AUGUST ONE, LAST, A TOTAL OF FIVE ANONYMOUS CALLS WERE RECEIVED BY A
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TACOMA TIMES REPORTER AND THE UNITED PRESS WIRE MAN AT Tflaffi, GIVING IN-
FORMATION REGARDING THE MEETING AT THE WINTHROP HOTEL OVER THE DISK
FRAGMENTS AND STATING THAT THE B TWENTY FIVE HAD BEEN SHOT DOWN OR
SABOTAGED WHICH KILLED CAPTAIMVWDAVIDSON AND LIEUTEANTCBROWN INFERRING
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HAVE COME FROM THEMSELVES, SMITH OR ARNOD, AND DENY THAT THEY MADE THE
CALLS. NO RECORD OF THE CALLS AS HAVING BEEN MADE FROM ARNOLD-S ROOM
IN THE WINTHROP HCTEL CAN BE LOCATED. DAHL AND CHRISMAN ARE EVASIVE AS
TO JUST WHAT INFORMATION THEY DID FURNISH BY PHONE OR LETTER TO RAY
PALMER. ERNIE VOGEL, UNITED PRESS WIRE MAN 5 TACOMA, WASHINGTON,
STATE IT APPEARS THE BOISE STATEMAN-S PAPER, AND KENNETH ARNOLD HAVE
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BEEN PUSHING THE PUBLICITY ON THE FLYING DISK STORIES. VOGEL STATES
THAT ARNOLD WAS ;1}];; THE FIRST OR ONE OF THE FIRST TO CLAIM HE HAD
SEEN FLYING DISKS. DAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE THAT ARNOLD ADMITTED RE-
CEIVING MONEY FROM RAY PALMER T0 COME TO TACOMA TO CHECK THE DISK
STORY. UNLESS ADVISED TO THE CONTRARY BY THE BUREAU, THE BUTTE OFFICE
AT BOISE, IDAHO, WILL OBTAIN ALL INFORMATION REGARDING THE CONNECTION
BETWEEN THE BOISE STATEMAN-S PAPER AND KENNNETH ARNOLD. WILL INTERVIEW
KENNETH ARNOLD, ROUTE ONE, MOUNTAIN VIEW DRIVE, BOISE FOR WHAT INFORMTIQ
HE HAS AS TO THE ABOVE FACTS AND WHAT INFORATION HE FURNISHED RAY PALMER
AND THE BOISE STATEMAN REGARDING THE TACOMA MEETING AND THE SABOTAGE
OF THE B TWENTYFIVE. THE CHICAGO OFFICE AT CHICAGO WILL INTERVIEW RAY
PALMER, EDITOR OF FRANTASY MAGAZINE, REGARDING HIS CONNECTIONS WITH
DAHL AND CHRISMAN AND ARNOLD AND WHAT INFORMATION EACH FURNISHED TO HIM.
WILL ALSO ATTEMPT TO ASCERTAIN WHAT INFORMATION CAPTAIN EMIL H. SMITH
FURNISHED THE CHICAGO TIMES. THE SEATTLE OFFICE AT SEATTLE WILL
INTERVIEW EMIL H. SMITH, THREE NAUGHT TWO SEVEN WEST LAURELHURST
DRIVE ALONG THESE SAME LINES. WILL ALSO ASCERTAIN WHAT INFORMATION THE
FIRE CHIEF AT “MSSBSMMSN HARBOR, WASHINGTON OTAINED FROM DAHL AND
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LAST. SMITH HAS RECEIVED PREVIOUS PUBLICITY FOR HAVING SEEN FLYING
PILOT, RALPHASIEVENS, DURING ROUTENE UNITED AIRLINES FLICHT OUT OF
ON THURSDAY, JULY THIRTYONE LAST IN RESPONSE TO:- TELEPHONE CALL FROM
KENNETH ARNOLD AT TACOMA. SMITH CLAIMS HE HAD PREVIO JSLY MET ARNOLD
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AND LIEUTENANTIBROWN, ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS, AND A REPORTER *50Ni
TOHNSON OF THE IDAHO STATESMAN NEWSPAPER. SMITH CLAIMS NO PREVIOUS /)
A pra Baaave sdeen sr @ s TNA LY AT RIID T M i 8 > . R L o s 8
K \CQUAINTANCE WITH DAHL OR CHRISUANe SMITH RELATES THAT ON NIGHT OF
BOTH HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY ADMITTED TO BE FALSE WAS TOLD TQ SMITH, ARNOLD ,
TO THIS INTERVIEW, CHRISMAN CGAVE CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND BROWN"# BOX: OF
1HE AELEGE RAGUMEN1. 40H 1ALl "-‘i}":fi:rfl"fi'?.l TOOK WITH THENSON
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HIM OR THE TACO INCIDENT AS PER A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THEM THAT
SMITH WOULD LET RODDY IN ON ANY FLYING DISC STORIES WHICH HE MIGHT RUN
: INTO. SMITH ALSO ADMITS THAT HE TOLD REPORTER JOHNSON OF IDAHO STATESMAN
DAVIDSON AND LIEUTENANT BROWN WERE CARRYING FRAG ENTS WITH THEM ON T IR
FATAL FLIGHT. SMITH SAYS THAT DAHL TOLD H1M ON SATURDAY NITE AUGUAT
gErAS GUL G TO SAY THAT THE ENTRRE STORY WAS A HOAA. oSNNllh STATES THAT
\x HE TOLD HIS COMPLETE STORY TO MAJOR SANDERS OF MCCORD FIELD, TACOMA, ON
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FROM MR. LADD AT BUREAU ONE PM AUGUST FIFTH LAST. A-TWO SAN FRAN=
CISCO UNABLE TO VERIFY, LT, COL. DONALD SPRINGER A=TWO HAMILTON
FIELD, IN CHARGE OF INVESTIGATION BY A-TWO IS THOUGHT BY A=TWO
TO BE RETURNING FROM KELSO, WASHINGTON AREA HAVING GONE TO-KELSO./
UPON LEARNING OF DEATHS OF AAF INVESTIGATORS MENTIONED IN REFERENCE
TELETYPE. HE PLANNED, UPON DEPARTURE, TO OBTAIN RESULTS OF AAF
INVESTIGATORS OR REINTERVIEW PERSONS MENTIONED IN REFERENCED TEL~
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IN REPLY, PLEASE REFER TO
FiLENO, —
September 4, 1947
Director, FBI Attention: FBI Laboratory
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Re: Mrs. A. G SARBANIS, Informant
Dear Sir: 3 i
Reference is made to Bureau lette ted July 21, 1947, addressed ”
to Mrs. A. G. SARBANIS, 66 Notre Dame Avenue, Hicksville, Long lsland, New
York, a copy of which was sent to the New York Office.
Mrs. SARBANIS was interviewed by Special Agent William A. Johnson
on August 12, 1947, at which time she advised that this coded message had
appeared in "Newsday," the local newspaper of Nassau and Suffolk County,
Long Island, New York. She stated that the message had appeared in the
"County Irritant," a feature of this paper, and had been signed "Radio Ham."
Mr. JACK ALTSCHUL, City Editor of "Newsday," Hempstead, New York,
was interviewed and advised that this article had been sent to the newspaper
by letter which was signed "Radio Ham," and explained that he had no way of
determining the identity of the writer. Mr. ALTSCHUL stated that it was his
opinion that the code had been made up by some local "screwball" who had
been affected by all ofgthe newspaper publicity that had been given at that
time to the story about¥flying discs.
There is enclosed an article appearing in the July 12th issue of
"Newsday" concerning this coded message, which might be of interest in this
matter.
Unless advised to the contrary, no furtker effort is being made
to establish the identity of the person who signed himself "Radio Ham."
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Merrick—Out all day yesterday
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no luck. I got so disgusted I ended
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I SAW FLYING SAUCERS IN
AIR!
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Ham’s message seems to be from
some gentleman occupying ‘an .
Olympian height. As with many of
these erudite souls, the sender can-
not resist including a few “garbles”
in his code. Or is our Ham guilty?
Here is your message: TIRED OF
H-UMAN NONSENSE WONT
AWAIT ATOMIC WAR DISTURB- |
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FLYING DISKS AND WILL SET l
UP WORLD UNDER MARTIANS V
LATE THIS YEAR.
—Simple transposition. Hope all
your readers are appropriately
warned.
—Stephen M. Schuster.
(Other ungarblers got “outlaw”
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64 5 . 1 2 ’
Office Memorandum - vxitep states covernmenT
TO & ol Jo P Coymi'.}‘ : DATE: 9/17/L7
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SUBJECT: Mrs. A. €7 Sarbanis ofomen T
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Mr. Gurnéa_
Mr. Harbo
You will recall that a letter was received from the R e —
above captioned individual dated July 10, 1947, in which she Tole, Foom
inclosed a newspaper clipping signed "Radio Ham." This news- i ilm——
paper clipping contained a coded message which Mrs. Sarbanis —0 ———
decoded. The FBI Laboratory checked Mrs. Sarbanis' decoding of
this message and advised that it was substantially correct. The
Laboratory's decoding of the message is being set forth below:
"TIRED OF HUMAN NONSENSE WONT AWAIT ?{"LI C WAR
DISRUPTING ORDER SOLAR SYSTEM SO SENT FLYING
DISKS AND WILL SET UP WORLD ORDER UNDER MARTIANS
IATE THIS YEAR."
The New York Office was asked to interview Mrs. Sarbanis to
determine from what newspaper the clipping in question was obtained.
They were further instructed to contact this newspaper in an effort
to ascertain the identity of the person who sent in the coded message,
in order that the person might be interviewed for information ncerning
the alleged receipt of the coded message.
By letter dated September U, 1947, the New York Office
advised that they had ascertained from Mrs. Sarbanis that the coded
message had appeared in "Newsday,"” the local newspaper of Nassau and
Suffolk County, Long Island, New York. The City Editor of this news-
paper stated that the original had been signed only "Radio Ham" and
knew of no way of determining the identity of the writer. It was the
City Editor's opinion that the code had been made up by some local
"screwball" who had been affected by all of the newspaper publicity
that had been given to stories concerning "flying discs.”
The FBI Laboratory has now advised that the FCC maintains
their amateur records by a geographical breakdown as well as by call
letters and that the Laboratory could possibly get the names of all
anateurs in the Bellmore, Long Island, New York Section in the event
it is desired that another atteryrb be made to identify the person who
sent this coded message to the "Jv’c;,;‘sd:;y.';v v y W
RECOMMENDATION: It is recommended H@)g% Sfurther action be taken in
connection with this matter in viewW) the opinion expressed by the
City Editor of the "Newsday" that the letteryireteived“dy him signed
"Radio Ham" was from some local "screwba%. i oy . {
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Qfiice Memorandum e UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
! TO : ) Director, FBI = Attention: Assistant DATE: July 28, 1947
A Director D. M. LADD N
FROM : M, SAC, San Francisco ) S
SUBJECT: “FLYING DISCS
There is transmitted herewith for the information of the Bureau
a report received from Lisutenant Colonel DONALD L. SPRINGER, A-2, Hamilton Field,
California, containing the results of an investigation by his office concerning
the reported sighting of flying discs.
In addition to containing the detailed descriptions of what was
allegedly seen by several persons, the Bureau's attention is particularly called
to the first memorandum setting forth the notes of Agent FRANK M. |BROWN, CIC,
Fourth Air Force, concerning an interview he had with Mr. KENNETH ‘ARNOLD, Box
387, Boise, Idaho, who reported that on July 12, 1947 he had seen jnine strange
objects flying over the Cascade Mountain Range of Washington State. It will be
noted that CIC Agent BROWN reports that™ir. ARNOLD is very outspoken and somswhat
bitter in his opinions of the leadsrs of the United States Army Air Forces and the
FBL for not having made an investigation of this matter soonsr.™
The thought has occurred to ms that the Bursau might desire to have
an agent of the Butte Office contact Mre ARNOLD and explain to him our lack of ; | -
jurisdiction in such matters. FRERS
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. ' -CONFIDENTIAE-
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Office of W iskent Chief of Staff, A=2.
Trree Flying Discs. InvESTIGATION MADE AT . Palm_ Springs, Calif., Boise, .
Idaho, and Hamilton Field, California. )
ConTtroLLING oFFice. Alx. _Refense Command ... ...
Fice No. D333.5 ID (4AF=1208-1) __ Pgriop coverep From 10 Jul 47 to 18 Jul 47
CasE ciassirication . Insident. oo
Date... 18 July 1947 STATUS OF CASE.. Pending
REASON FOR INVESTIGATION:
Investigation initiated at the request of Headquarters Air Defense Command
reference letter Headquerters Air Defense Commend, dated 7 July 47, File D333.5 1D,
subject: Investigation of Flying Discs.
SYNOPSIS:
Flying\Discs first reported in this area 24 June 1947 near Mt. Rainier, Wash.,
by Kenneth '-'.\xmelc‘ (Inel 1, Exhibit A)
Unidantified object reported 9 July 1947 at approximately 1277 near Boise, Idaho,
by David N.\ Johnson, Aviation Editor, Idaho Daily Statesman. (Inel 2, Exhibit B)
Unidentified objects reported by Capt. E. J.\Srzith, United Air Lines Pilot,
4 July 1947, eight minutes out of Boise, Idaho. (Incl 3 MOIC, Incl 7 News Clippings
dated 5 July 1947)
Record check of law enforcement agencies, public utilities, and local residences
revealed no record of Richard\Rankin in Palm Springs. (Inel 4)
Unidentified objects reporfed 8 July 1947 et 1245, traveling northeast over
Hemilton Field by S/Sgt Edward R\ Baker, (Incl 5, Exhibit I)
\ Unidentified objects reported over CGrand Canyon, Arizona, 0910 MST by Lt. W. G.
(McGinty, USN (Incl 6) and in vicinity of Lake Mead by Lt. E. 3.‘ Armstrong, Hq Tenth
Air Force, Brooks Field, Texas. (Incl 6). \
Extent of publicity in local area indicated by press clippingse (Incl 7)
DisTRIBUTION CoriEs APPROVED:
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:
le On 12 July 1947, Yr. Kenneth Arnold, Box 387, Boise, Idaho,
wes interviewed in regard to the report by Mr. Arnold that he saw 9
strange objects flying over the Cascade Mountain Range of Washington
State on July 25th. Mr. Arnold voluntarily agreed to give the interviewer
a written report of exactly what he had seen on the above mentioned date.
‘ The written report of Mr. Arnold is attached to this report as Exhibit 4,
; AGENT'S NOTES: Mr. Arnold is a man of 32 years of age, being married and
the father of two children. He is well thought of in the community in
which he lives, being very much the family man and from all appearances
& very good provider for his family. Mr. Arnold has recently purchased a
home on the outskirts of Boise, recently purchesed a §5,000 airplane in
which to conduct his business to the extent of which is explained in the
attached exhibit, It is the personal opinion of the interviewer that Mr.
Arnold actually saw what he stated that he saw., It is difficult to believe
that a men of ¥r. Arnold's character end apparent integrity would state
that he saw objects and write up & report to the extent that he did if he
did not see them. To go further, if Mr. Arnold can write = report of the
character that he did while not having seen the objects that he claimed he
saw, it is the opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Arnold is in the wrong {
business, that he should be writing Buck Rogers fiction. Mr. Arnold is !
| ‘lvery out spoken and somewhat bitter in his opinions of the leaders of the
U.S. Army Air Forces and the Federal Bureau of Investigetion for not having
made an investigation of this matter sooner. To put all of the statements
mede by Mr. Arnold in this report would make it a voluminous volume, However,
after having checked an msronautical map of the area over which Mr. Arnold
claims that he saw the objects it was determined that all statements made by
Mr. Arnold in regard to the distances involved, speed of the objects, course
off the objects and size of the objects, could very possibly be facts. The
distances mentioned by Mr. Arnold in his report are within a short distance
of the actual distances on aeronautical charts of this area, although Mr.
Arnold has never consulted aeronautical charts of the type the Army uses. :
Mr. Arnold stated that his business had suffered greatly since his report
on July 25 due to the fact that et every stop on his business routes, large
groups of people were waiting to question him as to Just what he had seen.
Mr. Arnold stated further that if he, at any time in the future, sew anything
in the sky, to quote Mr. Arnold directly, "if I saw a ten story building
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flying through the air I would never say a word about it", due to the
fact that he has been ridiculed by the press to such an extent thet he
is practically a moron in the eyes of the majority of the population of
« the United States.
1 Incl: Exhibit "A"
4
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" I was born March 29, 1915 in-.Subeka, Minnesota. My father's name was
Edward Erb Arnold; my mother's maiden name was Bertha E., Barden. I was a
resident of Mirmesota until I was six years old when my family moved to
Scobey, Montana, where they homssteaded. My pgrendfather, Roland C. Arnold
also homesteaded in Scobey, Montana, and became quite prominent in political
circles along with Burton K. Wheeler, the famous Yontana senator.
I went to grade school and high school at liinot, North Dakota. I
entered scouting at twelve years of age and achieved the rank of Eagle scout
before I was fourteen. My former scout executive was H. H. Prescott, now a
regional commissioner for the Boy Scouts in Kensas City, Kansas.
As & boy, I was interested in athletics and was selected as an all=-
state end in 1932 and 1933 in the state of North Dakota., I entered the
U. S. Olympic triels in fency diving in 1932; I was a Red Cross Life Saving
Examiner during the years of 1932, '33 and '34. I taught swimming end diving
at scout camps and the municipal pool in Minot, North Dakota. I went to the
University of Minnesots, where I swam and did fency diving under Neils Thorpe,
and also played football under Bernie Biermen, but upon entering college I
was unabls to continue my football career beceuse of an injured knee. My
high school football coach was Glenn L. Jarrett, who is now the head football
coach of the University of North Dakote. I had little or no finances, and
my ambition in furthering my edication in college was through my’ athletics.
y As a boy in Minot, North Dakota, I did & good deal of dog sled racing, placed
first with my dog in 1930 in the Lions Club Dog Derby.
In 1938 I went to work for Red Comet, Inc. of Littleton, Colorado, a
\ mamfacturer of automatic fire fighting apparatus. In 1939 I was made
district manager for them over & part of the western states, and in 1940 I
\ established my own fire control supply known as the Great Western Fire
- Céntrol Supply. I have been working as an independent fire control engineer
since, and I handle, distribute, sell and install all types of automatic and
manual fire fighting equipment in the rural areas over five western states.
My flying experience started as a boy in Minot, North Dakota, where
I took my first flying lesson from Earl T. Vance, who was originally from
Great Falls, Montana. Due to the high cost at that time, I was unable to
continue my flying and did not fly of any great consequence until 1943,
I was given my pilot certificate by Ed Leach, a senior CAA inspector of
Portlend, Oregon, and for the last three years have owned my own airplane
covering my entire territory with same and flying from forty to one hundred
hours per month since. Due to the fact that I use an airplane entirely in
my work, in January of this yeer I purchased a new Callair airplane, which
is en airplane designed for high altitude take=-offs and short rough field use.
In the type of flying I do, it tekes a great deal of practice and
1 Jjudgment to be able to land in most eny cow pasture end get out without
injuring your aiplane; the runways are very limited and the altitude is
very high in some of the fields and places I have to go in my work. To
date, I have landed in 823 cow pastures in mountein meadows, and in over
e thousand hours a flat tire has been ny greatest mishep.
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The following story of what I observed over the Cascade mountains,
as impossible as it may seem, is positively true. I never asked nor wanted
any notoriety for just accidently being in the right spot at the right time
to observe what I did. I reported something that I know any pilot would
have reported. I don't think that in any way my observation was due to any
sensivity of eye sight or judgment than what is considered normal for any pilot.
On June 24th, Tuesday, 1947, I had finished my work for the Central Air
Service at Chehalis, Washington, and at about two o'clock I took off from
Chehalis, Washington, airport with the intention of going to Yekime, Wash.
My trip was delayed for an hour to search for a large marine transport that
supposedly went down near or around the southwest side of ¥t. Rainier in the
state of Washington and to date has never been found.
I flew directly toward MMt. Rainier after reaching en altitude of about
9,500 feet, which is the approximate elevation of the high plateau from which
. Mt., Rainier rises. I had made one sweep of this high plateau to the westward,
searching all of the various ridges for this marine ship and flew to the west
down and near the ridge side of the canyon where Ashford, Washington, is located.
Unable to see anything that looked like the lost ship, I made a 360 degree
turn to the right and above the little city of Mineral, starting again toward
Mt. Rainier. I climbed back up to an altitude of epproximately 9,200 feet.
The air was so smooth that day thet it was a real pleasure flying and,
as most pilots do when the air is smooth and they are flying at a higher
altitude, I trimmed out ny airplane in the direction of Yakima, Washington,
which was almost directly east of my position and simply 'sat in my plane ob=-
serving the sky and the terrain.
There was a DC-4 to the le ft and to the rear of me approximately
fifteen miles distance, and I should judge, at 14,000 foot elevation.
The sky and air was as clear as crystal. I hadn't flown more then
two or three minutes on my course when & bright flash reflected on my
airplane. It startled me as I thought I was too close to some other air-
crafte I looked every place in the sky and couldn't find where the reflec-
tion had come from until I looked to the left and the north of Mte Reinier X
where I observed a chain of nine peculiar looking aircraft flying from north
to south at epproximately 9,500 feet elevation and going, seemingly, in a
definite direction of about 170 degrees.
They were approaching Mt. Reinier very rapidly, and I merely assumed
they were jet planes. Anyhow, I discovered that this was where the reflec-
tion had come from, es two or three of them every few seconds would dip or
change their course slightly, just enough for the sun to strike them at an
angle that reflected brightly on my plene.
These objects being quite far awey, I was uneble for a few seconds to
make out their shape or their formation. Very shortly they approached Mt.
Rainier, and I observed their outline egainst the snow quite plainly.
I thought it was very peculiar that I couldn't find their tails but
assumed they were some type of jet plane. I was determined to clock their
speed, as I had two definite points I could clock them by; the air was so
clear that it was very easy to see objects and determine their approximate
shape and size at almost fifty miles that day. r
I remember distinetly thet my sweep second hand on my eight day clock,
which is loceted on my instrument panel, read one minute to 3 P.M. as the
first object of this formation passed the southern edge of Mt. Rainier.
I watched these objects with great interest as I had never before observed
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airplanes flying so close to the mountain tops, flying directly south to
southeast down the hog's back of a mountein range. I would estimate their
elevation could heve varied a thousand feet one way or another up or down,
but they were pretty much on the horizon to me which would indicate they
were near the seme elevation as I was.
They flew like many times I have observed geese to fly in a rather
diagonal chain-like line as if they were linked together. They seemed to
hold a definite direction but rather swerved in and out of the high mountain
peaks. Their speed at the time did not impress me particularly, because I
knew that our army and air forces had plenes that went very faste.
What kept bothering me as I watched them flip and flash in the sun
right along their path was the fact thet I couldn't meke out any teail on
them, and I em sure that eny pilot would justify more than a second look at
such a plane.
I observed them quite plainly, and I estimate my distance from them,
which was almost at right angles, to be between twenty to twenty-five miles. A
I knew they must be very large to observe their shape at that distance, even
on as clear a day as it was that Tuesday. In fact I compared s zeus fastener
or cowling tool I hed in my pocket with - holding it up on them and
holding it up on the DC-4 - that I could observe at quite a distance to my
left, and they seemed smaller than the DC-4; but, I should judge their span
would have been as wide as the furtherest engines on each side of the
fuselage of the DC-4,
The more I observed these objects, the more upset I became, as I an
accustomed and familiar with most all objects flying whether I am close to
the ground or at higher altitudes. I observed the chain of these objects
passing another high snow-covered ridge in between ¥t. Rainier and Mt. Adams,
and as the first one was passing the south crest of this ridge the last
object was entering the northern crest of the ridge.
As I was flying in the direction of this particular ridge, I measured
it and found it to be approximetely five miles so I could safely assume that
the chain of these saucer like objects were at least five miles long. I
could quite accurately determine their pathway due to the fact that there
were several high peaks that were & little this side of them as well as
higher peaks on the other side of their pathway.
As the lest unit of this formation passed the southern most high snow-
covered orest of Mt. Adams, I looked at my sweep second hand end it showed
that they hed travelled the distence in cne minute and forty-two seconds.
Even at the time this timing did not upset me as I felt confident after I
would land there would be some explanetion of what I sawe
A rnumber of news men and experts suggested that I might have been
seeing reflections or even a mirege. This I know to be absolutely false,
as I observed these objects not only through the glass of my airplane but
turned my airplane sideways where I could open my window and observe the
with a completely unobstructed view. (Without sun glasses)
Even though two minutes seems like e very short time to one on
ground, in the eir in two minutes time a pilot cen observe a great
things end anything within his sight of vision probably as many s
sixty times.
I continued my search for the marine plane for another §
twenty minutes and while searching for this marine plene, wi
observed kept going through my mind. I became more distu
teking & last look at Tieton Reservoir I headed for Yaki
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could even follow by their flashes as they passed Mt. Adems, was around two
and one=half or three minutes =-- although, by the time they reached ¥t. Adems
they were out of my range of vision es far as determining shape or form. Of
course, when the sun reflected from one or two or three of these units, they
appeared to be completely round; but, I am kaeing a drawing to the best of my
ability, which I am including, as to the shape I observed these objects to be
as they passed the snow covered ridges as well as lt. Rainier.
When these objects were flying spproximately streight end level, they
were just a black thin line and when they flipped was the only time I could
get a judgment as to their size.
These objects were holding an almost comstant elevation; they did not
seem to be going up or to be coming down, Sueh &8 would be the case of rockets
or artillery shells. I am convinced in my owm mind thet they were some type
of airplane, even though they didn't conform with the many aspects of the
conventional type of planes that I knowe.
Although these objects have been reported by meny other observers
throughout the United Stetes, there heve beem 8ix or seven other accounts
written by some of these observers that I cam truthfully sey must have ob=
servied the seme thipne thet I did; particulayly, /the descriptions of the three
Western/qgguiigggyémgfggees, tho/gég%igéfin froi'Okluhons City and the locomo=~
tive engineer in Illinois, plus Ceapt Smith and Co=Pilet Stevens of United Air Lines.
Some descriptions could not be very accurates taken from the ground unless
these saucer-like disks were at quite a great height amd there is a possiblity
that all of the people who observed peculiar objeets oould heve seen the seme
thing I did; but, it would have been very diffieult from the ground to observe
these for more than four or five seconds, and there is &alweys the possibility
of atmospheric moisture and dust near the ground whieh eould distort one's vision.
I heve in my possession letters from all over the United States and people
who profess that these objects have been observediower other portions of the
world, principally Sweden, Bermuda, and Californial,
I would have given almost anything thet dey %0 have hed e movie
camera with a telephoto lens end from now on I will never be without one - -
but, to continue further with my story. When I landed at the Yakima, Wash.,
airport I described what I had seen to my very good| friend, Al Bexter, who
listened patiently and was very courteous but in a Joking way didn't believe me.
I did not accurately measure the distance/?fieem these two mountains
until I landed at Pendleton, Oregon, thet same day whsre I $old 2 number of
pilot friends of mine what I had observed and they did mnot seoff or laugh but
suggested they might be zuided missiles or something new. Im fact several
former Army pilots informed me thet they had been briefed before going into
combat overseas that they might see objects of similar shape amd design as I
described and assured me thet I wasn't dreaming or going erazy.
I quote Sonny Robinson, & former Army Air Forces pilet who is now opera=
ting dusting operations at Pendleton, Oregon, "What you observed, I am con- g
vinced, is some type of jet or rocket propelled ship tha% 18 dm the process 'b“xéf:f
of being tested by our government or even it could possidly be by some Tored@incds ",
zovernment e« by
Anyhow, the news thet I had observed these spread very rapidiy and
before night was over I was receiving telephone calls from all parts of
the world; and, to date I have not recsived one telephone @all or one letter
of scoffing or disbeliefs The only disbelief that I kmow of was wWhat was
printed in the papers.
I look at this whole ordeal as not something funny as Some people have
made it out to be. To me it is mighty serious and since I o¥idemtly did
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observe something that at least lir, John Doe on the street corner or Pete
Andrews on the ranch has never heard about, is no reason that it does not
oxist. Even though I openly invited an investigation by the Army and the °
FBI as to the authenticity of my story or a mental or a physical examination
es to my capabilities, I have received no interest from these two important
protective forces of our country; I will go so far as to assume that any
report I gave to the United and Associested Press and over the radio on two
different occasions which apparently set the nation buzzing, if our Military
Intelligence was not aware of what I observed, they would be the very first
people that I could expect as visitors.
I have received lots of requests from people who told me to meke a lot
of wild guesses. I have based what I have written here in this article on
positive facts and as far as guessing what it was I observed, it is just as
much a mystery to me as it is to the rest of the world.
Ny pilot's license is 333487, I fly a Callair airplane; it is a three-
plece single engine lend ship that is designed and manufactured at Afton,
Wiyoming &s an extremely high performance, high altitude airplene that was
made for mountain work. The national certificate of my plane is 33355.
/s/ Kenneth Armold
Box 587
Boise, Idaho
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4AF 1208 1
16 July 1947
MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:
l. On 12 July 1947, e cell was mede at the newspaper office of
the "Idaho Daily Statesman", Boise, Idaho. The aviation editor of the
paper, lr. David N. Johnson, was interviewed in regard to how well he
knew ¥r. Kenneth Arnold of Boise, Idaho, and as to the eredibility of
any statement made by Mr. Arnold. The purpose of this interview was an
attempt to verify statements made by lr. Kermeth Arnold on 26 June 1947,
to various national news services to the effect that he, Mr. Arnold,
had seen 9 objects flying in the air above the Cascade Mountain Range
of Washington. These objects were subsequently referred to as flying
saucers or flying disks and will here-in-after be referred to as such
in this report. Mr. Johnson stated that he had known Mr. Arnold for
quite & period of time, having had relations with Mr. Arnold on various
occasions, due to the fact that both he, Mrsidohnson, and Mr. Arnold
were private fliers and frequently got together to talk shop. Mr. Johnson
stated that as far as he was concerned anything ‘r. Arnold ssid could be
teken very seriously and that he, Mr. Johnson, actually believed thet lr.
Arnold had seen the aforementioned flying diskss' \Mr. Johnson stated that
after lir. Arnold reperted having seen the flyimg disks, that the editor
of the paper had assigned him, Mr. Johnson, the assignment of taking the
airplene belonging to the newspaper and exhausting all efforts to prove
or disprove the probability of flying disks having been seen in the
northwest area. The results of this assigumont 4o Mr. Johnson and what
he subsequently saw is put forth in a sworn statement signed by Mr. Johnson
attached to this report as Exhibit 5.
AGENT'S NOTES: Mr. Johnson is & men of approximately 33 to 35 years of
ages From all appearances he is & very reserved type of pesrson. Mr.
Johnson has logged 2800 hours of flying time in various typas of airplanes
up to end including multi-engine aircraft. During part of the war years,
#r, Johnson was the first pilot of a B-29 type aircraft baing assigned to
the Twentieth USAAF and stationed on Tinian Island, in the Pacific. It
is the personal opinion of the interviewer that Mr. Johnson actually saw
what he states that he saw in the attached report. It is also the opinion
of the interviewer thet lir. Johnson would have much more to lose than gain
and would have to be very strongly convinced that he actually saw something
before he would report such an incident end open himself for the ridicule
that would accompany such e report.
1l Inel: Exhibit "3"
FRANK M. BROWN, S/A, CIC §th AF
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™ . Statement of David N. Johnson A
at Boise, Ideho, July 12, 1947 '
To Whom It May Concern:
On the sixth day of July, 1947, I received from Jemes L. Brown,
general menager of the Statesman Newspapers, incorporated in Idaho as
The Statesman Printing company, an assignment which was in substance:
"Conduct an serial search of the northwest states in an effort to
see and photograph a flying disc. Conduct this patrol for so long a time
28 you believe reasonable, or until you see a flying disc."
In accordance to these instructions, I took the Statesmen's airplane,
and with Kenneth Arnold as passenger, flew a seven and one-helf hour mission
on the seventh day of July, 1947. This mission was without result. It
covered an aree embracing the confines of the Hanford plant in Washington,
and territory between and around M. Rainier and ¥t. Adams, where Arnold
first reported seeing objects henceforth described as saucers or dises.
On the eighth day of July, 1947, I took an AT=6 of the 190th Fighter
squadron, Idaho National Guard, of which I am a menmber, and flew to northern
Idaho, into northwestern Montana briefly, to Spoksne, Washington, and back
to Boise by way of Walla Wella, Washington, and Pendleton, Oregon. This
search also was negative.
On the ninth day of July, 1947, I continued the search, again using a
national guard AT-6, this time centering my efforts over the Owyhee mountains
west and southwest of Boise, a portion of the Mountain Home desert on & track
southesst of the Mountain Home army air base, thence into the Sawtooth moun-
tains, and back in the general direction of Boise on a line carrying me well
to the north of the Shafer butte forest service lookout station, into the
Horseshoe Bend area, and thence back in & southwesterly direction to a point
between Boise and the village of Meridian, west of Boise a few miles,
During this search, which lasted approximately two and one=half
hours, I flew under and around repldly forming cumulus clouds over that
area lkmown as the Camas Prairie, east of Boise. The clouds were near the
village of Feirfield in that valley, and Fairfield is 75 miles airline
distance east of Boise. At that time I saw nothing in the viecinity of
these clouds.
At the time I reached the point between Boise and Meridian, I was
flying at an altitude of 14,000 feet mean sesa loevel, which would be a meen
average of 11,000 feet above the earth in this area, not considering errors
in the altimeter induced either by barometric changes since my tekeoff, or
by the temperature at thet altitude.
I turned the aircraft on an easterly heading, pointing toward Gowen
Field, end had flown on that course for perhaps a minute when there suddenly
appeared in the left hand portion of my field of vision an object which was
black and round.
I immediately centered my gaze on the object. At that time, due to its
erratic movement, I thought I was seeing a weather balloon. I celled the
CAA's communication station at Boise, and asked if the weather station had
recently released a balloon. The reply from commnicator Albertson was that
the bureau had not. I do not remember his exect words; I am under the
impression he said "not for several hours" or gave me the exact time of the
previous release, which was around 08:30 that day.
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passed over ols€E, 4 Saw tollsa aircrai 80 2avt QY som ~ 4 VUV
Ifeet., The P-351 1 >V inl of Kuna proceeded to e area where A&
saw t ob ject, my request, ¢ co >teéd a search. 1 ias gatlvee.
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This statement 1s made voluntarily and freely, in response
to the request of Mr. Brown and Captain Davidson, who called on me
this morninge.
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/s/ David N. Johnson
Subscribed and sworn to before me, a notary public, this _12th
day of July , 1947.
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/s/ Geo. L. Flaherty
Notary public for Ada
county Idaho. My
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which reference 1s made in the attached statement. At
all times the object appeared as black. Positions (1)5.2029
and (3) show the jerky, rising motion. Position (4) is where
the object rolled, presenting its edge to me. It then
followed the dotted line, rolling over the top of the maneuver
and disappearing at position (5),
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‘askling descr e what they saw, be 2 & v 1 my s Iy,
1 rder to »1d suggestlo o J8 I ce o 2 lead a e . b,
saw tl objec (fro the ro d) whil L was I second searche.
the same erratic \ner, ey s & bservede 5 :
myself is now in order.
crease my wers of obserx ion except g t se practiced dally by
8 alrman e + aoes L mage my 27 31E A rpe except agadl as
o e Incidental demands upon t eyes of a pilot,
At the time of tThe experlience elated above, ada 1lown I X
to photograph 1it. In all frankness, I was tired. may have been
At all times durl t search, Dbo on t , day an the VO
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erratic flight path.
plcture fllm, developed a processed by &, W, Stohr in the Eastman
at the s8lze I described, the object would not have reglstered suffic-
to be apparent even through great enlargement of thernegative, and
enlargement in that case is limited because of the slze of the film
exposure was f,16, stop set at infinity, at a speed of 16 frames per
Seconde.
| took myself aslide and sald, come now, J nson, do = stupid
L knew in the air whe saw that partial slow roll or bar K
that I was not a vict of 1llusion.
1l trust this matter will be of help to those investigatigy
A chart 1s attached depicting the movements of the ob ie
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16 July 1947
le On 12 July 1947, Captain Smith, of the United Airlines, was
interviewed at the Boise Municipal Airport, Boise, Idahos Captain
Smith was passing through Boise on a schedule flight at the time and had
a 20 minute stop-over. Captain Smith reiterated the statements originally
made by him to the press as to what he had seen in the late evening of July
4th, when 8 minutes out of Boise on the route to Seattle, Washington. It
is the opinion of the interviewer that due to the position Captain Smith
occupies, that he, Captain Smith, would have to be very strongly convinced
that he actually sew flying disks before he would open himself for the rid-
icule attached to a report of this type.
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4AF 1208 I
14 July 1947
MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:
le On 10 July 1947, a chech was made at the following locations
in Palm Springs, Celifornia for the purpose of trying to locate lr,
Richard Renkin: Palm Springs Police Department, Palm Springs Newspaper,
"The Desert Sun", Palm Springs Water Company, Southern California Gas
Company, Palm Springs Telephone Company, Palm Springs Employment Office,
Palm Springs Chanber of Commerce, Royal Palms Hotel, 5 Palm Spri ngs real
estate offices, and the City Offices of Palm Springs including waste
disposal, water rights, tax records and etce. No record of Mr. Rankin
existed in any of the above mentioned offices.
2. On 11 July 1947, Mr. Ryland M. Gorham, Postmaster of Palm Springs,
California for the past 14 years was interviewed. Jlr. Gorham stated that
he had lived in Palm Springs for the past 24 years and that he was unawere
if a person named Richard Rankin had ever lived in Palm Springs. Mr,
Gorham stated that due to the fact that Palm Springs is a resort area and
due to the fact that in the summer months only 3 to 5 thousand people resided
in Palm Springs, whereas in the winter months 10 to 12 thousand resided in
Palm Springs, it was very possible that lir. Renkin could have lived in
Palm Springs more or less on & non-permanent status and he, lir. Gorham, not
being aware of ite
A check of CGeneral Delivery records revealed a letter addressed to
Mre Richard Renkin, Palm Springs, mailed from Cicero, Indiana, postmarked
et Cicero, Indiana, July 1947, at 5 P.M. The return address on the
envelope was listed as the Gospel Tract Worker, Route 1, Cicero, Indianae
lr, Gorham permitted the contents of the envelope to be examined inasmuch
as the contents was 3rd Class material and the envelope not sealed. The
records were of a religious nature concerning the sad plight of American
non=church goers, the second coming of Christ and ete. Superintendent of
Mails was contacted by Mre. Gorham and stated that there was a Mr. Richard
Rankin who had received mail through the general delivery office of the
Palm Springs Post Office, but that the last mail, other than the letter
mentioned above, came through the Post Office approximaetely two years agoe™
The Superintendent of lMails seemed to have a very uncanny memory and recalled
where the mail coming in for Renkin had been addressed to. This mail was
addressed to lire Richard Renkin in care of a trailer camp located in Palm
Springse On calling the trailer camp office, it was found that Mr. Richard
Rankin had lived in the camp but deperted approximately two years ago and
left no forwerding address. Investigation is continuing in an effort to
locate Mre Renkin and obtain a statement from hime
FRANK Mo BROWN,S/A, CIC 4th AF
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On 15 July 1947, u/o¢: Edward R. Baker, ASN RA 39576378, 467th
AAF BU (ORD), Squadron A, Hamilton Field, California, was interviewed
and stated as follows: 3/Sgt Baker has been in the Army ten years and
two months, twenty-six months overseas duty in the ETO, and has been in
the Air Corps for about ten months. S/Sgt Baker stated that on 8 July
1947, he was going to Base Cleaners from his office and was passing
along the sidewalk near the barracks of the ORD when he saw five or six
men pointing toward the sky, but as he was use to this around an Army
Alr Base, he paid no further attention to it until a lieutenant and a
captaln ahead of him stopped and pointed 1 the same direction. He
stated that on glancing up he saw three objects traveling northeast
across the sky. Two seemed to be traveling faster than an ordinary
flight of P-80s and he estimated the altitude between 8-10,000 feet
and approximately 7-10 miles away. S/Sgt Baker stated that the two
objects in the lead appeared to be round and of a very light gray color,
while the object in the rear seemed to be either rotating or rolling
behind the other two. S/Sgt Baker stated that from a distance he could
not tell exactly the shape of the one which was rolling as 1t appe ared
to be turning over and he couldn't tell whether the object was flat.
The only means he had of 1dentifying it was the fact that it seemed to
get brighter and darker as it appeared to roll. he objects were in
sight approximately four seconds. As he was in a hurry, he did not stop
to talk to the other men but he heard one of them remark that the one in
the rear was certainly rolling faste. S/Sgt Baker was unsble to ide 1 6i1fy
any of the other men in the group who were reported to have seen the
object. DBaker stated that it was unlike anything he had ever seen and
that he has been trylng to convince himself that it was an optical
11lusion, and yet at the same time he 1s certain that he saw the objects
as described. (See Exhibit I).
NOTE: S/Sgt Baker appears to be lntelligent and is a reserved sort of
person. He was very reluctant to discuss the subject at first and
appeared hesitant prompted by the possibillity that he might be ridiculed.
e seemed to be honest and sincere in what he stated he saw, and saild
frankly he was puzzled over the matter. A signed statement by u/bgL
Jaker 1s attached.
1 Incl:
Exhibit I.
WILLTIAM L. DAVIDSON, Capt, AC, OIC CI, 4AF
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B FORM NO. 64 A
Office Memor}fld%m « UNITED sm!:s GOVERNMENT
65-481 -
Qb TO : Director FBI DATE: September 2, 1947
%fi{ FROM : SAC Butte sy
SUBJECT: ' FLYING DISCS / ; /
Remytel August 20, 1947, i 9(
With reference to. the above-described teletype, Mr. H. H,|HEDSTROM,
322 Third Avenue North, Twin Falls, Idaho, was the principal source |of infor=-
mations Mre HEDSTROM, who is the Executive Director of the Twin Falls Housing
Authority, explained that he and his wife and Mrs, HENRY\SHULTZ, & neighbor, were
sitting on their front porch at approximately 9:30 P. M, August 19, 1947, BHe
said that Mrs. HEDSTROM suddenly shouted and pointed %o sky and thereafter
stated that she had seen an object traveling at a terrific rate of speed in a
northeasterly direction, The object was out of sight before Mr, HEDSTROM and
Mrse SHULTZ could see anythinge
While they were discussing what Mrs, HEDSTROM had seen, approximately
ten minutes later all three saw ten similar objects proceeding rapidly in the
same direction in the form of a triangle, As the group of objects was dis=-
appearing, three of the objects on the left flank peeled off and proceeded in
a more northerly direction, The remaining objects appeared to close ranks and
proceeded in a northeasterly direction,
From three to five minutes later these same individuals saw drothes
group of three objects proceeding in the same direction, and again in shape
of a triangle, From three to five minutes later all three observed another
group in a triangular formation consisting of five or six objectse They were
proceeding in the same direction.
A few minutes later the three persons saw a large group of objects
estimated at from thirty-five to fifty flying in a triangular formation in the
same direction, Approximately twenty or twenty-five minutes after the large
group of objeots was observed, similar objects were noted caoming back over the
city in a southwesterly directions These objects were generally in groups of
three, five and seven and followed each other at approximately five minute inter=
valse
Mrse HEDSTROM called Detective RICHARD A, FRAZIER of the Twin Falls
Police Depertment, & next door neighbor, who was then accompanied by Me Ee
ROUNTREE and RICHARD SCOTT, also members of the Twin Falls Police Department,
The three officers watched for a few minutes and observed a group of about
twelve objects flying in formation over the city in a southwesterly direction,
The members of the Police Department did not continue watching, although Mre
FRAZIER later saw other groups, which were also seen by the S and Mrse
SHULTZ, Mrse SHULTZ had also cglled her husband, who saw soméjsefi the objects,
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BT 65=-481
On the night in question the sky was overcast and the objects could
not be seen closely; however, they were distinet enough so that all persons
could observe what they desoribed as a glow going through the air, They said
that the objects appeared to be lighted from the inside and were of a color
similar to regular electric lights,
Detective FRAZIER and Mr. HEDSTROM both stated that they could not
be meteors or comets, that they flew on a level line and did not appear to
drope They flew at a terrific rate of speed and were visible for only a few
minutes at a time, Both persons interviewed said that the objects could not
have been geese or ducks and that the lights were not a reflection of the city
lights on some object or objectse
None of the persons interviewed noticed any flames or anything except
the glow of lightse None of the persons who claimed to have seen these objects
were drinking at the time. No other persons in Twin Falls reported seeing the
objeocts mentioned herein; however, Mr, HEDSTROM and Mr, FRAZIER stated that it
was purely by accident that they had seen the objects and that they would not have
seen them unless they were looking for them, because of the speed at which they
traveleds On account of the overcast sky they were unable to estimate the size
of the objects or the height at which they flew,
No further investigation is being conducted by the Butte Office, and
the case is being closed,
RJG:FO'S
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Office Memorandum - uNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : Diredtor, FBI > DATE: September 4, 1947
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N‘;‘& FROM : SAC, San Francisco ATRMAIL
SPECIAL DELIVERY
SUBJECT: REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS
Enclosed is a copy of a letter dated August 28, 1947,
from Lt, Col, DONALD L. SPRINGER of A-2, Hamilton Field, Calif.,,
with an attachment referring to the sighting of a flying object
by Captain JACKPECK and his co-pilot, VINGE-DALY, near Bethel,
Alaska.
Photostatic copies of this letter and attachment are
being forwarded to the Anchorage Field Office. In accordance
with Bureau Bulletin #42, dated July 30, 1947, Anchorage is
requested to interview Captain JACK PECK and his co-pilot, VINCE
DALY, preferably separately, in order to cbtain all details of
their reported sighting of a flying object on August 4, 1947.
The San Francisco Field Office should be furnished two copies
of the results of these interviews for distribution to the Sixth
Army Intelligence.
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19 August 1947
Subjocts Matters of National Interest
Tos Cormending Genersl
Fourth Air Force
San Frenciseo, California
The attached letter has been received from the NCOIC of
the Alaska Communicetion System station at Bethel, Alaska.
It is submitted for your informations
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For the Commanding Officer:
/s/ 8vend C, liansen
SVEND C. HANSEN
1 Inecl Captain, Signal Corps
Cy ltr fr NCOIC Acting Executive
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HQ FOURTH AIR FORCE, Hemilton Fleld, California, 28 August 1947,
103 Spaecial * In Charge, ?V’f', Je S¢ Dopartment of Justice, Room 422,
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1. Per AGAO-S 3519.1 the following report is submitted on a matber {
which mey become of Hational Interest. Captain Jack Peck and his CoPilet |
Vinee Daly have stated that on August 4, 1947 they sighted and followed a >
£lying ssucer Northwest of Bethel Alaska. This object was bigger than the B
Douglas DC=3 they were flying, erossed their course at right angles to theme L
It was flying st an Altitude of ome thousand feet. They swung in behind it i
and followed it &t an sir speed of one hundred seventy miles per hour but. i
it was out of sight in four minutes. They state the m‘--‘mfi 27 -
surfaced and streamlined with no visible means of pro whatevere 7%
I 2. It is realized that the Fourth Alr Force claims there sre no sueh &
i things but Captain Peck is Chief Pilot for Al Jones flying service and is o 0
not a man given to exageration. In view of the excellent reputation of :
Captain Peck and the fact thet no ome here doubts in the least but thas he o3
sctually saw this object, this report is turned in for any action deemed e
neceasary by your office, 2 ot
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'ANDARD FORM NO. 64 ‘ : ‘ ‘ i
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‘; TO : Director, FBI DATE: August 27, 1947
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SUBJECT: “Unidentifiable Objects”.
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Californie.
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dated 15 July 1947,
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UNIDENTIFIABLE OBJECTS
? i ¥Williams Fld., Chandler, Arisz,
| 15 July 1947 3
MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:
1. On 14 July 1947, 1lst Lt Eric B. Armstrong, 0-2059709, 170th
AAF Bage Unit, Ferry Division, Brooks Field, San Antcnio, Texas was
interviewed and the following information was obtained: Lt. Armstrong
departed Williams Field, irizona at 1400 CST on 28 June 1947 in a P-51
E for Portland, Oregon, by the way of Medbrd, Oregon. At approximately
i 1515 CST on a course of 300 degrees, and ground speed of 285, altitude h
10,000 feet, approximately thirty miles northwest of Lake Meade, Nevada
i Lt, Armstrong sighted five or six white, circular objects at four o'clock,
w altitude approximately 6,000 feet, course approximately 120 degrees and
e an estimated speed of 285 MPH. Lt. Armstrong said the objects were flying
; very smoothly and in a close formation, The estimated size of the white
objects were approximately 36 inchesin diameter. Lt. Armstrong stated
i that he is sure the white objects were not birds, since the rate of
i closure was very fast. Lt. Armstrong was certain that the white objects
| were not jets or conventional type aircraft since he has flown both types. 3
i AGENT'S NOTES:
g Lt. Armstrong was very sincere in the explanation and was not the
| exaggerating type. He merely stated vhat he saw and has drawn no con-
| clusions as to what the white objects were.
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fi\p‘“ FROM : SAC, SAN F RANCISCO (£ |
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SUBJECT: REPORT LYING DISCS
ALTENTION: ASSISTANT DIRECTOR D. k. LADD
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g ; K volon: - A:JAAL,.A‘U diy fourtn Alr rorce, u iton rield, Caliiornlia, / [)/ _ N “/
telephon 1ly advised Speci: gent MICHAEL J. CASSIDY of the San Francisce—? /}/‘9’,’
OUePsna 10 . + 297 10,7 v o e b 3 3 £ { >
flying dises; that Mr. McLEOD also asked whet! it would permissible for
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The atiachod mevsyeys, . T -
Delavare, July &, 1947. Iv ruports that a rusadss® V0N . 123 Rehioboth 3
Avenne, Rehoboth Bsach, Delaware ‘;_’ukfi.r that an u
past ten months he had twice .oe&‘"fl.,_vi.?r:g’:isca chhe ‘ epcried :;bfle
¥r. WENYON was quoted cs having called the Federal Bureau of Investigation
and was advised that the Bursau was not interested, whereupon he notified
the Tastern Airlines and the Civil Aeronautic Authority of the objects
he had seen. Both agencies are reported to have accepted the information
stating they would investigate, The clipping further stated that Mr.
WENYON had received no answer to date from either agency.
This clipping was submitted to me by the resident agents' office at
Wilmington together with the advice that no agent in Wilmington had been
contacted by Mr. WENYON. I directed Mr. WENYON be interviewed to determine
the full facts. A
kr. WENYON was interviewed and it was determined that his correct name is
HORACE P, WENYON. Mr. WENYON advised that he had been an airplane pilot
approximately thirty years. He stasted that in September of 1946, while flying
at an allitude of 1,000 feet, two or three miles south of Rehoboth Beach,
.Delaw re, he noticed a projectile approximately fifteen inches in diameter
which crossed his course at right angles and was moving in a west-to-east »
direction. According to Mr. WENYON, several Jets of flame were spurting
from the object and it was traveling at a very high rate of speed, 1,000
to 1,200 miles per hour. He stated that in October of 1946, he observed a
similar projectile while flying over Rehoboth Beach at 1,400 feet, _This
was also traveling from west to east. ot
Mr. WENYON stated that there is little question in his mind but that what
he saw was some sort of rocket being tested. He stated that he wished to
call the matter to the attention of the appropriate authority inasmuch a-
X he thought that the series of airplane crashes that have occurred re-
might in part be explained by what he had observed. He stated t*
reported the information to the Civil Aeronautics Authority o
telephonically intervieweq by( a _rsporter from the Wilmingto
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Flying Discs )
Miscellaneous
Mr. WENYON stated that what he had seen traveled at such a high rate
of speed that it was very difficult to describe it, but the description
"flying mayonnaise jars" was concocted by the newspaper reporter.
This information has not been brought to the attention of any Army
sources in view of the fact that only a preliminary inquiry was con-
ducted on the basis of a news article which sets forth essentially
the facts obtained from Mr. WENYON.
No further action in this matter is contemplated by this office unless
advised otherwise by the Bureau.
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SUBJECT: Wi, yTh NTSCS : - ST o =
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AT €5 ooing appearsd in the “:ivayaudey (LafJluineton,
g Mayonnat§é‘ “31(?7.) w—p o | Continued From Fire: Page
=N . +/riged from the theory that they
. t d b Rehoboth Pllot i|were radio controlled flying missiles
.,)OT € y [ssnt aloft by U. S. milit, Iy scien-
i(tists to the suggestion that they
5 . might be merely sun light reflected
rest Wenyon Believes Mystery Discs, on Wing tanks of - jet-propelled
. planes.
'ot-Prope”ed, May Have Caused Btg A. B. Cross of Chattanooga, Tenn,, %
S a 34-year-old watchmaker, an.
Plane Crash on Memorial Day nounced he invented the “fiying
saucer” and submitted it to the War |
eteran Delaware pilot, Forrest Wenyon of 123 Rehoboth Avenue, xl-Jee'gcabretdmenqt ‘:‘lotgfirgu&}fi 1519: Y;S\
th Beach, -disclosed last night that in the past 10 months he }I;ai pr-:?sent uax*ne o practic a e‘\
een objects now being loosely described as “flying saucers” bul | ot ¥ |
he calls “flying mayonnaise jars.” vix?caer’:r.th};: ts:;dhehinbecear:?eflggg-
¢ particular difference between the mysterious objecte of Mr. rated on his plan pHism odel wi 2
's Teport and those which have now been observed in some s pian. model was
end . powdered with a rubber band, Cross
T 140 states in that tne former, accord- said, but he believed atomic' power
* |ing to the pilot, held a frue course now is being used o
untu.they dist_appeared from _slgfit. A Spokane, Was'h., woman insisted
This would indicate a guifcdo=—as
. gt the objects she saw were of such
*J|ldast an aimed missile while the size that together th al
| " has been 0g! T they would take
cqurse of the “saucers up; the space of a five-room house
!d ribed by observers as erratic. if they landed but a Clearwater.
r. Wenyon said last night that Fl§, woman said the disks she ob-'
he first saw what loosely resembled sexi ed resembled “Die pans.”
a “flying mayonnaise jar” one after- l A; Rutland, Vt, a woman re-
noon last September whiie flying at ported she and her husband ¥
about 1,000 feet. It was late in the nessed a brilliant object in e
afternoon and the pilot was flying night sky which she assumed to e
north. 3 a “flying saucer” although it
Suddenly, at an estimatea dlstancel stationary.
of 2,000 feet in front of his plane| But at Cambridge, Mass., a house- |
|'and traveling from west to east, Mr. | wife said she saw “a group of white,
J‘Wen.von saw the “jar.” It was going ’flying saucers whirling around and
rat tremendous speed Hat the pilot |going at a tremendous speed.”
n was able to note severa! mmgs. | The Massachusefis and vermant
The most important Bf these ob- reports brought to 40 the number
h servations, insofar as arjexplanation of states in which the objects have
is possible, is that the “jar” appeared been observed,
to have some sort of rocket com- With New England getting into
bustion. Mr. Wenyon said thqt the game, the Harvard University[
S-|sourts of silver flame from thg tail astronomical observatory took note |
\d| deemed to provide the propulsion. of the reports but said it had had |
):‘{ Carrying out the description of no luck so far in photographing one |
n|fhe “flying mayonnaise jar,” Mr. of the discs.
|- | enyon said that the tail appeared THe mysterious saucers first were
U|fo be a lid which had been per- reported June 25 in the State o
forated and that from these per- |Washington, but Charlie T. Han,
y) |forations the flames escaped. let, superintendent of the Kings
lll\ In a matter of two, at the most porty Tenn., Times News composin
al| three, seconds the object had dis- room, said yesterday he haq see
appeared over and past Fort Miles. the discs two years ago. |
"s| The pilot did not see it land and They were “of a bright, alum!numl
W| doesn’t know whether it did or not. color” and “were going at terrific
a| .Then on June 2 while flying at speed,” Hamlet said, explaining he
re| 1,400 feet in a Stinson four-passen- kept quiet about them because of
3 ——==—————=————— ds|ger|ship Mr. Wenyon, § pilot Ef 39 the ak Ridge atomic bomb plent,
R U o . had no con- | 2-|yests’ experience, saw ahother “jar. then a war secret,
Commission said they ha ‘esl He didn't say much|about it to Lester Barlow of Stamford, Conn,
nection with the mystery. ted the| :| Reljoboth Airport attaches although international known explosives in. '
#he West, which °f331t’:,3 mduce | ‘€| he “did mention it. Mr. Wenyon, ventor, advanced the theory that
sa icer reports, c°“"“§°t hag'e seen‘ with a theory in mind, called the the ob]e_ct5 were radio controlled
observers Whodid:u::d a(:so braught | 0 Eederal Bureau of Investigation, \fly}Mng missiles,
the whirling 9 C‘_ nary explanion ||re 0 eres ports persisted that the Army @
forth one deflationary ier him so, he said. He then called | was looking into the phenomena but O
of them. tor of a fly-|2¢|Eastein Airlines and the Civil Aero- Gen. Carl Spaatz, Army Air Forces 003‘
Bob Johnson, opera Mont., re-| |nautic Authority both of which commandant, said he knew of no Q@
ing service at Missoula, of the|or(gave him a sympathetic hearing, AAF plans to search for the saucers, |
| ported he had C“Pt“‘t‘oe‘{,e°’:§umeed ps| thanked him and said they'd inves The Navy and Atomic Energy
dlsfi.; A i tlgTate‘.i te he ¥ ived no answer| d $
| seeds. - |in ‘o date he has receive o B \
| Charles Odom, 23'Y§,’§;‘;§‘Z‘w’°§n‘er from either. | ! e
|mer B-17 navlgawl‘e the objects|| | Mr. Wenyon's theory is that one of |
| Houston, Tex., tha - |}~ |these “jars” was responsible for the
Bughs ey & varsin of Sao-ao e T e Airlines plane '
trolled “crystal balls” *sed by * Port Deposit, Md., on Memorial
Nazis in the war. B which killed 53 persons. He
These balls, which flew to t the stories of that accider /
titude of the bomber and appare 'nd lelieves now that tr./
1y were magnetized to fiy along W, ~%on in mid-air, -
the planes, sent b~ to rat b~ af witnesses,
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