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65_HS1-834228961_62-HQ-83894_Section_4
The FBI's 62-HQ-83894 case file includes investigative records, eyewitness testimonies, and public reports concerning Unidentified Flying Objects and flying discs documented between June 1947 and July 1968. The records include high-profile incident accounts, photographic evidence from sites like Oak Ridge, TN, and technical proposals regarding potential propulsion systems. Additional topics include convention programs, researcher accounts, and extensive media coverage from the period. This file is partially posted on FBI vault with more redactions and some pages missing. Included here is the complete case file with several newly declassified pages and only minor redactions.
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FANDARD FORM NO. 64
Offi(}e -Memur o... lum + vxiTED $1 SOVERNMENT
TO : DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: October 9, 1947
C}"&OM : SAC, PORTLAND
SUBJECT:'"FLYING DISCS
SECURITY MATTER - X.
Reference is made to Portland teletype dated September 13, 1947.
Records of the Radio Dispatcher, Portland Police Department, reflect
that first notice of unidentified objects in flight over the city on September 11,
1947 was received from officers in District 18, which is in the extreme north-
east section of the city, at 5:21 P.M. The log further reflects that at 5:23 P.M.
the radio requested District 14, which is further south, to attempt to locate
and identify the objects and that at 5:24 P.M. a report was received from the
car occupied by Chief of Police JENKINS, reporting that they had sighted some
objects. District 14 at 5:27 P.M. reported seeing nothing unusual in the sky.
ROBERT D. ADAIR, 4325 S.E. Madison Ave., Portland, advised that he was
one of the two officers on duty in District 18 on September 11. The car was in
the vicinity of N.E. 25th Avenue and Saratoga Court when ADAIR and his fellow
officer noticed a number of people looking upward and pointing. Upon looking at
« the sky ADAIR observed the very bright reflection of the sun on some object
which was apparently made of silvery metal. The object was coming from the east
and made a wide turn over the city and disappeared to the south. ADAIR estimated
its speed at about 150 miles per hour and its altitude at about 5,000 feet.
He watched it for a period of about two minutes and during that time it gradually
disappeared in such a manner as to appear that the angle was slowly changing,
so that the sun was no longer reflected into ADAIR's eyes. He says that the
shape appeared to be round but that the glare was so bright that it could have
hidden the true outline of the objects There was no oscillation visible - only
steady flight. ADAIR believes it was an ordinary metal airplane reflecting light
of the afternoon sun. “___~_____.~a¢me-T(
J. R. CALDWELL, 7652 S.E. Lincoln St., Portland, Oregon was ADAIR's
partner in District 18 on September 11, CALDWELL states that the object appear—
red to him to take the same course as that described by ADAIR., He pointed out
that the speed, height, and size of the object were difficult to judge, because
of the interdependence of the three factors. However, he believes that the
object when first sighted was about three miles away and about two miles high. >
He believes it was traveling at a much greater speed than a conventional air-
plane and was a great deal larger. It appearsd to him to be elliptical in
shape, and inasmuch as it did not bank or tip he could not judge its thickness.
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Chief of Police LEON V., JENKINS advised that he was travelling south
on N, Williams Avenue near Russell St., when he and Officer H. S. RANEY, his
driver, received a call on the police radio requesting District 14 to attempt q
to observe an unknown object in the sky reported by officers in District 18,
JENKINS observed what appeared to be a round silver object, about 10,000 feet
high, travelling northeast to southwest. It was directly to JENKIN's left when
observed first. He thought it was a weather balloon. Further observation con-
vinced him that it could not be a balloon because of its speed which was extreme-
ly great. As JENKINS watched, it turned gradually until it was travelling due
south, and as it did so, its shape seemed to change until it appeared to be
egg-shaped. It disappeared in about 30 seconds.
Patrolman H. S. RANEY stated that when he first observed the object
it was straight ahead of him and travelling straight away from his car.
RANEY was driving south on N. Williams Avenue. To RANEY it appeared to be just
a glare of sun on some object, and he was unable therefore to tell its shape.
It appeared to be very high and travelling extremsly fast. It was out of sight
after he had travelled 4 or 5 city blocks at a speed of about 25 mph. RANEY
stated that he has never seen an object at such an extreme height before and
that if the sun had not reflected from it he could not have seen it at all.
He believes it could possibly have been a reflection from a large airplane at
great altitude.
ROBERT W. SHAYLOR, 4810 N, Fessenden St., Portland stated that he was
on duty in District 14 with Officer DONALD W. COWLING on September 11, 1947
and received the call to watch for the object flying over the city. SHAYLOR
and COWLING immediately scanned the sky from a vantage point in open territory
where they could see the entire sky. They saw nothing in the sky at that time,
SHAYIOR stating that they did not even see any airplanes.
A short article in "The Oregonian", Portland daily newspaper, for
September 12, 1947, describes the object as seen by Chief of Police JENKINS and
also states that "The Oregonian" received several calls from other persons
reporting the object. FRED M. WHITE, Assistant City Editor, advised that the
paper hes no record of the identities of the people making the calls.
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te Menmor 772 + UNITED STA 4 DVERNMENT
TO ¢ pirector, FBI DATE: 10/18/47
| [ Frrom SAC, Anchorage
SUBJECT: REPORT OF FLYING DISCS
5 This is to advise that we have been able to locate a
flyer, JAMCK, who is employed by the Al Jones Flying Company in
Bethel, Alaska., It had been xeported to Military Intelligence that
Mr, PECK and his co=-pilot Vn:&\QfiX had observed some flying object
near Bethel, Alaska, in July, 194 Efforts previously to contact
Mr. PECK were negative until the above instance.
He related that the occasion of seeing the flying object
near Bethel was on a July day when the sky was completely clear of clouds,
and it being during the early part, it is daylight the entire night,
The time of his sighting this flying object was about 10 FM and the sun
had just dropped beyond the horizon. Flying weather was extremely good
and he, with Mr. DALY, was coming into the Bethel Airport with a DC=3.
He observed the flying object immediately to his left and stated that
it apparently was observed at approximately the same time by Mr, DALY
and both of them manipulated the controls of the plane making efforts
to miss the object inasmuch as they could not tell in which direction
it was going. They made a forty=-five degree turn in order to get out of
the way of the object and then noted that it appeared to be going away
from them, He described the object as appearing to be some flying wing and s
said that it appeared to be about the size of a C=54 without any fuselage,
He could not see any propellor or any exhaust from jet propulsion or any
vapor trails and could not estimate the size due to his failure to be able
to estimate the distance he was away from the object. He was flying at
1,000 feet and stated that he tried to catch up with the object and in-
creased his manifold pressure to approximately 42 inches and was trave]fg
at the rate of 170 miles per hour, LA
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He called on his radio to the Civil Aeronautics Adminis=
tration station at Bethel, asking what aircraft was in the vicinity and
they had no reports of any aircraft. The object he sighted was
some five or ten miles from the airport before his arrival and stated
that the path did not go directly across the airport. He, of course, could
not tell whether the object was making any noise and stated that it was
flying at a thousand foot altitude and estimated travel at 300 miles per
hour., It was traveling in the direction from Bethel to Nome, which is in
a northwesterly direction., He noted no radio interference and is unable to
describe the color other than that it appeared dark but of definite shape
and did not blend into the sky but had a definite, concise outline. Both
he and Mr. DALY clearly observed the object at this time.
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It may be stated to the Bureau that Mr, PECK is a well
known flyer as well as Mr. DALY and both are known to be very reliable
and responsible people, and it appears definite that they observed
something.
The above is being submitted for the information of the
Bureau.
LOT :1LMR
100-1406
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Ofiice Memomndum + UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : Direotor, FBI DATE: November 1, 1947
f[}’-FROM : SAC, Albany
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
A. COURTNEY/fARKER, IRFORMANT
Reurlet dated 9/25/47.
An Agent of this office contacted Mr. A. COURTNEY PARKER at his resie
dence in South Royalton, Vermont and he stated that all the information he has con=
cerning the flying discs he saw, is set forth in the letter that he sent to the
Bureau dated September 17, 1947,
Mr. PARKER advised that as far as he knows, no one else in South
Royalton saw these flying discs, and that he believes he saw them inasmuch as he has
unusually good eyesight and that he can see bees, etc. further than anyome else. He
stated that possibly these flying discs were out of the range of normal wision. Mr.
PARKER was asked to furnish any additional information that comes te his atlention
congerning these flying discs directly to the Air Forces since they mow handle matters
of this type. .
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November 10, 1947
Mrs. Milo A4 Dursnd
Elizabethtown, New York
Dear Mrs. Durand:
Your letter postmarked November 5, 1947,
has been received and I do want to thank vou for
writing as you did. The patriotic motives which
prompted your suggestions concerning the subject
about which you have written are indeed appreciated.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
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3 TYour lettier dated Novenber 2, 1947,
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November 18, 1947.
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Kollowing the appearance in this town on November 6, 1947,
) of a Mre J':;\i\ippincof“. Director of the Eastern Area, Red Cross,
Pittsburgh, Pa., as "speaker of the evening”, at the annual local
Red Cross dinner, I was told by Dre H. EXCromwell, loecal practiocing
dentist, that in a personal conversation, llowing the dinner, Mr.
Lippincott told him that the "saucers" reported as seen in warious
+ parts of the country, were actuslly fro= Spain. He said that Mre.
Lippincott said that this had been ascertained by the Government in
Washington, but that it was not being made known. He said that
Mre Lippincott had been in Burope and inferred that he had been in
") Spain and knew conditions over there. Dre. Cromwell is a man active
in the Methodist Chruch and the local Protestant Mens Club, and it is
\ easy to see how far this report can be spread. The fact that the
Federal Government indorses the Red Cross makes a statement of an official
2 representative of that organisation almost indisputable.
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citiszen interested in truth ard World peace and racial and religious
harmony in our own country, I question the advisability of an acoredited
representative of the Red Cross giving out this information, even "off
the resord”. I thought you might be able to check with Mr. Lippin-
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Dear Miss Beuscher:
Your letier of January 5, 1948, has been
received and I want to thank you Jor forwarding
information to me relating to the subject you
mentioned. The facts you related, however, do not
reflect any violation of a Federal statute within
the investigative jurisdiction of the FBI. The
thoughts prompting your communication are indeed
appreciated.
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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NOTE: Correspondent reports correspondence she has
had with the Ziff-Davis Publishing Company in connection
with the "flying saucers" which were observed by her
brother. She is of the opinion that this publication
may be trying to conceal information related to our
Nation's security aond she mentions a threat that does
not referiinjury to person or property. =
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5 . Federal Bureau of Inuestigation
5 United States Aepartment of Justice
San Franoisco 2, California
February 12, 1948
AIR MAIL
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PERSONAL AND MJK@OQO fl W
Director, FBIL - Attention: Assistant Director D. M. LADD
e soTor Do M. LADD
Re: FLYING DISCS
Security Matter - X
Dear Sir:
I an transmitting herewith for the information of the Bureau copies of an
enclosure dated February 4, 1948 received from Lieutenant Colonel DONALD SPRINGER,
A-2, United States Aip Force, Hamilton Air Force Bage, California. This enclosure
is a confidential letter addresseq to the Commanding Generals of the First, Second,
Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh, and Fourteenth Air Forces, Air Defense Command, from Head-
zfi‘arte"so Alr Defense Command, Mitchel Air Fores Bage, New York, by commend of
}eutenunt General STRATEMEYER, It concerns the investigation of flying discs by
Air Force Personnel,
By Your gttention is particularly called to Paragraph 2, which indicates that
iet;;}: reports Soncerning the investigation of flying discs by Air Force Intelligence
Purngx;sp:ogo;“d\ f‘ch\he FBI office concerned. Your attemtion is further called to
LerPraihlic Indicet " 3 wi
FBI Office concermd“."t‘. .?.s that "investigations will be coordinated with tiho [T
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Command, Mitehell Aip F‘or:: ;:cent instructions of the Headquart'ers, Alr Defense ’
Yained in Bureau By1jey, Noo &y Jew York, are contrary to the instructions cope /A
is indicated thet ail £ " Nos 57, Sertes 1947, dated October 1, 1947, in which \%
referred to the Air F g repor.'ts e s uith flying dises should ve
Bureau 1. requested t"cz and no Hvestigative action taken by Buresu agents, the
offices, as ._ hioty 0 advise thig office, as well ss other interested Bureay
the handling of" :..‘\.er there has been a change in Buresy policy with referencs to
is still in effect, matters or whether Bureau Bulletin Noe. 57 dated October 1, 1947
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Headquarters
Air Defense Command
Mitchel Air Force Base, New York
4 February 1948
D 333.5 (CIB)
SUBJECT: Investigation and Reporting of "Flying Disc" Incidents
TOs Commanding Generals, First, Seeond, Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh, and Fourteenth
Air Forces, Air Defense Command
ATTN; AC of S, A-2
1. The numbered air forces of this command are responsitle for the prompt
investigation and reporting of incidents relating to "flying discs" which occur
within their respective areas. Numbered air force A-2s, after eveluating disc
incidents, will determine the extent of investigation. Futile expenditure of military
funds and manpower must be avoided.
2, "Flying discs" will be investigated as provided for in Counter Intelli-
gence Incident Cases, taking cognizance of the USAF Operating Intelligence Echelcn
structure. Where it is evident that witnesses, who were together at the time of
incident but who are widely separated at the time of investigation would corroborate
each other's story, only one witness need be interrogasted. If there is a reasonable
indication that & reported incident is a hoex or the fabrication of a publicity
seeking individuel, no further investigative effort will be expended. However, a
report of such circumstances will be submitted to the FBI office concerned.
a. CIC personnel attached to the numbered air forces of this command
may be utilized to prosecute the investigation of subject incidents.
be Investigations will be coordinated with the FBI Office concerned
in accordance with instructions contained in letter, this headquarters, D 333,3 EX,
subject, "Cooperation of FBI with AAF on Investigation of 'Flying Disc' Incidents,"
3 September 1947,
3+ Reports will be narrative in style and will cover only those facts
pertinent to the subject. Where source credibility cennot be established, or when
an inoident lacks foundation, the report will merely state same. Two types of report
will be sulmitted on all incidents.
a+ Spot Reports (fragmentary reports) will be submitted on all incidents
end will be followed by a Letter Report.
be Letter Reports will be sulmitted to report the completed investigation
of all "flying disc" incidents.
4. Reports will be sulmitted in duplicate promptly, usually be regular
mail, However, Spot reports on incidents of substantial character, i. e., those in
which the patent credibility of the witness is beyond challenge and whos&4technical
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backgret ,{Kf'omtible with his observations of an occurrence obviously not atmo-
spherie™c § ”f’.‘gt‘hl phenomena, may be transmitted by TWX. Reports will be submitted
directly %0 Headauarters, USAF, ATTN: Directorate of Intelligence, Air Intelligence
Requiremenfs¥Brafich. One informationsl copy of each report submitted will be fore
warded to this command, ATTN: AC of S, Intelligence. Reports will be classified at
least CONFIDENTIAL.
BY COMMAND OF LIEUTENANT GENERAL STRATEMEYER:
RICHARD W, GEUSS
Ceptain, USAF
Actg Asst Adj Gen
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Director, FBI i
FLYING DISCS
SECURITY MATTER - X
= Reference is made to your letter in the captioned matter dated
February 12, 1948.
You are advised that Bureau Bulletin No, 57 dated October 1,
1947, still applies with respect to flying discs., The Bureau is conducting
no investigations concerning flying discs. We will, however, give the Air
Forces any information which comes to our attention and will receive any
information which the Air Forces volunteer,
The Headquarters of the Air Forces in Washington are being contacted
by the Bureau in order to insure that there is no misunderstanding as to the
Bureau's position in this matter, Bx
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Ofi‘ice Memorandum - UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
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TO : Mr. Ladd V7 : DATB: 3/1/48 ey
FROM : V. P. Ke | % I, Corfey————
SUBJECT: ”/ FLYING DISCS . T —
Reference is made to a memorandum to you from Mr. J. P, Coyne -’fliuim .
in the above-captioned matter dated February 19, 1948. The memorandum v\-,‘: ="
indicated that the San Francisco Field Division had received a letter from |
the headquarters of the Air Defense Command, Mitchel Air Force Base, New York, 4
dated February 4, 1948, entitled, "Investigation and Reporting of 'Flying Disc' )
Incidents." This communication indicated that investigations should be
coordinated with the FBI.
The Agent in Charge of the San Francisco Field Division inquired as b3
to a change in policy regarding the investigation of flying discs. A letter ' >
was forwarded to San Francisco advising them that there had been no change in ‘
the Bureau's policy. This matter has been discussed by Special Agent S. W.
‘Reynolds of the Liaison Section with Lieutenant Colonel C. P. Martin of the
Intelligence Division of the Air Force. Colonel Martin advised Mr. Reynolds
that apparently the Air Defense Command at Mitchel Field was not aware of the
fact that the Bureau was no longer conducting investigations regarding flying
discs. He stated that he would take the necessary action and straighten out
the Air Defense Command as to the present policy regarding incidents of
flying discs. REOORDES /,/ » i / [\U”}’
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TO : Mr. D. M, Ladd k//’ DATE: February 19, 1948
FROM ' 1 (4 de P COyn;)«)/ o e
SUBJECT: ‘FLYING DISCS { S —
SECURTTY MATTER - X : o —
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The attached letYer fromithe San Francisco Field Division ififflzg
+ dated February 12, 1948, raises the question as to whether there has T —
been a change in policy concerning the investigation of flying discs, = “—‘"_—‘1
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RECOMMENDATION:, / f'
It is recommended that the information contained in the attached \
letter be discussed by the Liaison Section with the Air Forces,
ACTION: 3
1 A letter is attached to San Francisco advising them that there T
has been no change in Bureau policy. o .
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CHAN GURNEY, . DAK. WENNETH MC KELLIPENN.
* C. WAYLANG BROOKS, ILL. CARL HAYDEN, ARIZ.
CLYDE M. REED, KANS. ELMER THOMAS, OKLA.
JOSERH H. BALL, MINN. MILLARD E. TYDINGS, MO.
HOMER FERGUSON, MICH, RICHARD B. RUSSELL, GA. .
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LEVERETT SALTONSTALL, MASS. JOSEPH C. O'MAHONEY, WYO.
::t::’:‘:é.‘:z:fl&:f;ur. S RNy o, B 3 COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HENRY C. OWORSHAK, IDAMO
EVERARD H. SMITH, CLERK
CECIL M. TOLBERT, ASST. CLERK
March 22, 1948
Honorable J. Edgar Hoover, Director
Federal Bureau of Investigation
Department of Justice
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Hoover:
Attached you will find letter which may or
may not be of interest to your office. However, I
felt it should be passed on to you for whatever the
| information is worth.
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Benke lman, Nebraska
March 14, 1948
Mr. Kenneth Wherry
United States Senate
Washington, De Ce
Dear Mr. Wherry:
On March 13 at 2:30, ¥.S.T. o'clock in
the afternoon I witnessed a strange sight in the
sky traveling at a very high rate of speed at a
very high altitude.
I was first attracted to this sight by
a noige of motor or whatever it was. It sound__
to me like that of a train rumbling in the distance
of from 10 to 12 miles on a still day.
At first glance it looked like it might
be a vapor trail left by a high flying plane. But
the white streak that was in the sky never changed
its shape or did it change in the direction of travel.
It traveled much faster than any plane I
have seen traveling in sky high enough to leave vapor
trail.
As near as I candescribe this sight was
that it might appear to be a stream lined train
traveling at a very high altitude at very high rate
of speed.
This rocket or whatever it might have been
was high enough to disappear from sight while it
was yet very Sfar above the horizon.
I am not writing this so that it might
seem to be another disc, fan or whatever you might
call them. I just saw this and it has been on my
mind and I thought if there was anything that I
could be of help to solve this thing I would write ¥
this to you and you can forward this to the proper
Dept. if it is necessary. Thanking you kindly
Yours Truly : yx,
/8/ Kenneth L//Frasier § }
P.S. ENCLOSURE J
This object was traveling from east to west. It
looked izke it might have traveled over Denver,
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Coloe or a little to the south.
I live almost due east about 180 mie. by
air and I looked to the south a little to be able to
get s8ight of object.
This object was also witnessed by my son
who was with me at the time.
I saw the smoke cloud left by so called
meteor which exploded over at Norton_Kans. This
object was not .a bright ball of [fire like it wase.
The silver streak in the sky traveled.ss
if it were a long connected streak. This did_ne%
resemble a line of smoke lejft by a train traueling
along it moved altogether as a unit. IS it i8 mot
against any regulation and if possible would like to
have answer to this objecte.
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Mareh 24, 1948
REUURDED
Honorable Xenneth S« Therry
United States Senate
vaghington, D C.
My dear Senator:
Your letter of March 22, 1948,
with enclosure, has been received. Since
the subject matiter mentioned in your con-
stituent'’s letter ie not within the scope
of authority of this Bureau, I have taken
the liberty of forwarding a copy of his
letter and yours to the Jecretary of the
Army, National Defense Building, Pashing=-
ton, De Cey, Jor his informations Your
thoughtfulness in bringing this to my
attention is indeed appreciated. I am
enclosing a copy of my letter to Mr.
Fragsier which I thought you might like
to have Sfor your files, together with his
letter.
¥ith expressions of my highest A&
esteen and best regards,
Stncerely yours,
Enclos¥re
Incominb Srom Frasgier and copiy of our letter to him.
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March 24, 1948
RECORDED &
Kre Xenneth L. Fragier
Benkelman, Nebraska
Dear Mre. Frasier:
Your letter dated March 14, 1948,
to the Honorable Kenneth S« Fherry, United
States Senator, has been referred to me for
attention. Since the matier you mentioned
is not within the scope of authority of this
Bureau, I have taken the liberty of furnish-
ing a copy of your communication to the
Secretary of the Army, National Defense
Building, Washington, De Ce, and in the
event you have any additional information,
it is supgested you may desire to communiccte
with him,
dincerely yours,
John Edger Hoover
Director £
CC: Senator Wherry - Yondin /»0»«11 Cankewse- i
Name of town per Postal Guide
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CHAN GURNEY, S. DAK. KENNETH MC
C. WAYLAND BROOKS, ILL. CARL. HAYDER
CLYDE M. REED, KANS. ELMER THOM.
JGSEPH H, BALL, MINN. MILLARD E. T
HOMER FERGUSON, MICH. RICHARD B. RU : .
KENNETH 5. WHERRY, NEBR. PAT MCCARRAL., NEV.
o T e WUlnited Diates Denate
LEVERETT SALTONSTALL, MASS. JOSEPH C. O'MAHONEY, WYO.
MILTON R. YOUNG, N. DAK. THEODORE FRANCIS GREEN, R. I.
WILLIAM F. KNOWLAND, CALIF, COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HENRY C. DWORSHAK, IDAHO
EVERARD H. SMITH, CLERK April 1, 1948
CECIL M. TOLBERT, ASST. CLERK
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The Honorable J. Edgar Hoover
Federal Bureau of Investigation
United States Department of Justice
jashington 25, D. C,
Dear Mr. Hoover:
;’Q you very much for forwarding
Mr, Kenneth L.\¥frasier®s letter to the proper
authorities, ‘'Your cooperation in this instance
was deeply appreciated,
L”oz‘d,Lal{y yours , 1
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nited States Department of Justice
Post Office Box 1850
Atlanta 1, Georgia /
August 10, 1948 ; //
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AIRMATL, SPECIAL DELIVERY
Director, FBI
RE: MRS, MADELINE GWYNN@{WERCHANT;
INFORMATION CONCERNING
Dear Sir: . / .
Transmitted herewith for the Bureau's information are
coples of a letter, together with enclosure, from the above
captioned individual., Inasmuch as there is no record in this
of fice concerning captioned person, no reply has been made to
instant letter, with the thought the Bureau may desire to acknow-~
ledge instant communication or communicate further concerning
the matter with the Dallas Office.
For the information of the Bureau and the Dallas and
San Antonio Offices, the clippings referred to are transmitted
herewith to the Bureau, Dallas and San Antonio Offices, it being
noted that Wichita Falls is covered by Dallas and Fort Sam Hous~-
ton is covered by the San Antonio Office.
Very truly yours,
EDWIN J, dz %\
SAC
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C'Fom.{lo. 10-513 (Rev 1 Avg 46) _"_H_H&cflfia-r . WF-1-25 NOV 47 100M
m.‘ N - ‘ A Authority:
LSS HEADQUARTERS
AIR MATERIEL COMMAND MCIAXD-3/FWA/ew
COMMUNICATION AND" EN: Wright-Patterson AF Base
VELOPE TO COMMANDING WS HERDCOR IR N XOH
GENERAL, A IR MAY'EIOIE':
FOLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL: 9 September 1948
MCIAXO~3
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Director ’ o
Federal Bureem of Investigation
Department of Justice
— Washington, D, C.
ATTN: FBI Laboratory )
SUBJECT: Project "SIGN" :
Gentlemen:
Accompanying this letter is a small sample of soil. This
soil wes teken from a depression reputed to have been caused
by a-"flying samcer" described as being epproximately two feet
in diameter and one foot thick which supposedly settled gently
to the ground, rebounded to a height of about twenty feet and
then contimed on its journey. Although the declivity was immedi-
ately covered by a large washtub a heavy rain subsequently filled |
the depression about one/third full of water before any sample of
dirt could be taken.
In an effort to approach this incident objectively to deter—
mine every possible clue, it has been deemed advissble to have
this soil sample analyzed and tested. Upon inquiry, your Deyton
representative stated that the FBI Leboratory would accomplish
the required teste. ; 3 ; 'S S
RECORDED -1 A L s
It is the desire of this Head&kxan&ws—to—asmtain. in parti-
cular, if there are traces of unusual %lement# or A loys adhering
to the surface of the particles, ox%lf Sy Hbnb#ial ity in structure
exists showing that the soil was subjected tq intense heat, gases
or radio-active substances, etc. Unfor ¥, in this regard,
no one thought to forward a semple of ~~surrounding the de-
pression so no comparison of soils can be made at this time. Should
4 the subsequent test show anything unusual some arrangement could be
made to procure some of the surrounding soil so that a comperative
analysis could be made. The accompanying sample has not been test—
ed by any other agency, nor will it be.
270 NOV 18 1964
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Project "SIGN" 9 Sept 19U8
Director, Federal Buresn of Investigation
In the event the tests show nothing warranting further investiga~-
tion you may dispose of the sample, The report should be addressed
to this Command marked for the attention of MCIAXO~3, This Division
will eppreciate your cooperation in this matter.
Very truly yours,
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Incl - V. B uffcmun A €k U3
Colon USAF
Chief, Technical Intelligence
Division
Intelligence Department
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t‘ ; ‘ REPORT ‘\. : é
X - of the
_.n; LABORATORY o .
FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
WASHINGTON D.C.
To: October 7, 1948
Commanding General
Air Materiel Command
Wright-Patterson AF Base
Dayton, Ohio Attention: MCIAXO-3
mmtdlmmmaflotmmlhbaawrymm‘ ration
R of evidence received from your office on & % M
John Edgar Hoover, Director
YOUR FILE NO.
FBI FILE NO.
LAB. NO.
Barination of Soil
Reference:
Examination requested: RECOR % 62-83894 -146
DED - 98 PC=23142 CO
Specimens: Addressee
! Letter dated September 9, 1948
Microscopic (Petrographio~Geologic)
Q1 Sample of soil.
Results of Maminations
Mnmodamd.@MuWQWMMmM
pebbles, sand and dirt, This material was examined for the presence of unusual
elements or alloys adhering to the surface of the particles, evidence of intense
heat and radiocactive substances.
Nothing wmsual was noted on the pebbles @/ fi) the mand and dirt that
would indicate a metallic object had mbhlcrm against this sample. No
i e abmormality was noted in the structure of the U’W and rooks, nor
. Savir—— was there any indication of extreme heat or the presence of radicactive sub-
& M stances. VBou
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R — The specinen designated gs Ol will be retuiridd to your office under
Tele, Room _ — i
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a0k & 5 UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Laboratory Work Sheet
RBe: project MSIGN" File ¢ SIiER-3090eka0
Examination of Soil. Lab. # FC-23142 co
Commanding General, Air Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson
Examination requested by: x¥¥ AF Base, Dayton, Chio Attention: MCIAXO-3
Date of reference communication: letter 9/9 Date received: 9/17 P
Evid. 9/14 Reg.1171535
Examination requested: Micro (Petrographic-Geologic)
Result of Examination: ‘4% Examination by: JEVONS
A {1 Y I
Specimens submitted for examination ¥ n A /
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Laboratory Work Sheet O
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Re: Fil gageL146 7
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Examination of Soil. . PC=23 c
i . Commanding Oeneral, Air Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson
Examination requested by: X2 AF Base, Dayton, Chio Attentions MOTAXO=3
Date of reference communication: letter 9/9 Date received: 9/17 :
PO Bvid. 9/14 Reg,1171535
Examination requested: Hicro (Petrographic=Geclogic)
Result of Examination: Examination by: JEVOES
Specimens submitted for examination
Ql, Sample of soil.
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X Your letiar dated Ugtober 15, 1948, has bDeen
received and I do want to thank you for the patriosic
motives which prompted you to make availsble your
thoughts concerning the subject you mentioned,
ineerely yours,
Joha Zdgar Hoover
Director
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Date Case References "
Uctober 7, 1948 9 —62=83894—Project—SIeN
Con d 5 3 - 1 Beamination of Soil
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WMUNICATIONS SECTION | Fo-23242 00 Mr. Harbo, 7641 e
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REGIS TEREDHMATL v o S A Eod
SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS: Mail R om, place date of shipment and registry number; Sh7ippin¢ Room, show
date of shipment awjzit%}(gl C'?/i/!}/;nvoice; then return it to person whose name is checked’in column at
right. After this che Pe name has been initialled, invoice should be placed in administrative file.
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: DEC 281948 s g
/ BI, LOS ANGELES 12-28-48 5=354 1€ 6l
DYRECTOR AND SACS HOUSTON, CINCINNATI URGENT \ /
APXENTION INSPECTOR HOWARD FLETCHER W‘“X
FLYNIG DISK, LONNIE EDWARDOACK COMPLAINT. RE HOUSTJON TELE'I‘YI}’EJ %’/ L/
OEC. XWENTY EIGHT. MR. R.C. PERSONS, VASCO BNGWX ELECTRIC uaNO ACTHALNG .
COMPANY, LA, PRESENTLY IN ARIZONA, EXACT WHEREABOUTS UNKNOWN TO HIS
OFFICE, EXPECTED TO CALL MORNING OF DEC. TWENTY NINE. MR. NATHAN
o XSMITH, SMITH MANUFACTURING COMPANY, SOUTH PASADENA, CALIF. ADVISED HE
\\ . AND PERSONS PURCHASED AIRPORT IN MOJAVE DESERT NEAR HELENDALE,
N CALIF. STATED THAT IN EARLY PART OF DEC. EXACT DATE UNKNOMW, PERSONS
ADVISED HIM HE HAD FOUND A FLYING DISK ON THEIR AIRPORT. MR« AND MRS.
SMITH, PERSONS, AND LONNIEXWOACK PROCEEDED TO AIRPORT WHERE THEY
LOCATED DISK, TOOK PICTURES OF IT AND REMOVED MWK PORTIONS
\ OF DISK, NOACK RETAINING SOME PARTS AND SMITH KEEPING
. SOME PORTIONS WHICH ARE STILL IN HIS POSSESSION. SMITH ALVISED
THAT DAY AFTER LOCA'I‘l;‘lG/IHI DISK AN EMPLOYEE OBSERVED PARTS RETAINED
BY SMITH, AND STATED HE BELIEVED THE OBJECT HAD BEEN MANUFACTURED
BY OLSEN AND RICE MANUFACTURING COMPANY, TOY MANUFACTURERS LA. SMITH
STATED HE THEN CONTACTED OLSEN AND RICE WHO STATED THEY WERE FIN-
ANCING CLAUDE LEROYNJOLFERT LA IN DEVELOPING A KITE FOR SWw8 SALE
ON OPEN MARKET AS A TOY. SMITH STATED HE HAD PREVIOUSLY GIVEN
OLSEN AND RICE PERSMISSION TO USE HIS PRIVATE AIRPORT AT ANY TIME.
OLSEN AND RICE TOLD SMITH THEY HAD TAKE&XPERI;-ENTAL KITES TO 7;-;/1'Ti;is .
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AIRPORT AND UPON DETERMING KITES NOT PRACTICAL HAD ABANDONED THE PROJECT.
SMITH STATED HE HAD TAKEN SIXTEEN MM PICTURES WHICH ARE PRESENTLY BEING
DEVELOPED. STATED WOULD MAKE PICTURES AND PARTS FROM OBJECT AVAILABLE
TO THIS OFFICE. SMITH DESCRIBED OBJECT AS APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET IN DIA-
METER, CONSISTING OF DISK MOUNTED ON AXEL WITH BEARINGS, WINGS
ON EITHER SIDE, TAIL SURFACE SUPPORTED ON BOOMS, CUP MOUNTED
ON EACH WING TIP RESEMBLING ROCKET POWER CONTAINERS. SMITH STATED DID
NOT OBSERVE ANY CHEMICAL OR OTHER MATTERIAL IN CONTAINERS WHICH COULD BE
USED AS SELF PROPELLING FORCE. MR. HENRY T)\RICE OF OLSEN AND RICE MAN-
UFACTURING COMPANY ADVISED CLAUDE LEROY WOLFERT FINANCED BY THEIR COMPANY
IN DEVELOPING TOY KITE, THAT WOLFERT HAD PROACHED IDEA OF MAKING LARGE
MODEL TO BE USED AS TOW TARGET FOR AIRPLANES BUT RICE DECIDED
THAT HE MAXE "ONLY KITE SUITABLE FOR SALE AS TOYS. &MeswesK HOWEVER,
WOLFERT MADE LARGE MODEL APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET IN DIAMETER, WEIGHING
FIFTY POUNDS, WHICH TOGETHER WITH OTHER MODZL‘HAD BEEN FLOWN IN DC THREE
OWNED BY OLSEN AND RICE TO PRIVATE AIRPORT OF RNBRSWUNWN PERSONS AND
SMITHe RICE COULD NOT RECALL EXACT DATE, BUT MW STATED Mw¥ IT
WAS IN EARLY PART OF DEC. RICE STATED DIFFICULTIES ENCOUNTERED IN
FLIGHT OF KITE, AND THAT IN VIEW OF SIZE OF LARGE MODEL IT WAS NECESSARY
TO TOW IT BEHIND PLANE TO OBSERVE FLIGHT. STATED MODEL CRASHED AND OLSEN
AND RICE ABANDONED EXPERIMENT LEAVING AIRPORT WITH WOLFERT REMAINING BE-
HIND TO CONDUCT FURTHER EXPERIMENTS., RICE STATED DID NOT KNOW THAT WOL-
FERT HAD LEFT THE LARGE MODEL AT THIS AIRPORT UNTIL ADVISED BY SMITH
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At %00 a.m. today, SAC Willis, Houston, called in and stated . e ——
that Fullep-blackwell, a business man in Houston, Texas, had furnished ise sty
certain pictures taken by a friend of his, Lonnie*Noack of the Humboldt F 3oy
0il Company, Houston, Texas, and had related that Noack had been flying
with a friend in a private plane from California to Houston and that at a
point about 30 miles east of Lone Pine, California, some object lying on the
ground made a very strong reflection and they made a check to determine what
would cause this bright reflection. They finally landed the plane and found
an object which could be described as being 8' in diameter with wings about
4' long. The object is about 1! in thickness and in the center there appears
to be some type of gyroscope. The wings apparently are fitted with some type
of jet propulsion. An examination was made by Noack and his friend and they
could find no identifying marks and took photographs of the object they
observed.,
SAC Willis stated he had informed Lieutenant Robert Fleming of the
AAF, Ellington Field, and Captain Bush, the Army representative in Houston,
of this object and that Noack would be interviewed that morning in the Houston
Office with Lieutenant Fleming being present. ILieutenant Fleming wanted the
statements of Noack taken down by a stenographer and he will furnish the
stenographer for that purpose.
I instructed SAC Willis to furnish complete details of this matter
by air mail special delivery, including a copy of the photograph. I further
instructed that he furnish the same details to the proper field office because
unquestionably the Bureau would want to run this thing out.
After talking with you, I phoned SAC Willis back and told him to
insure the.presence of a Bureau Agent at the time this object was examined by
phe Army A1? Forces and that he should make proper arrangements with the office
in California to see that an Agent was present. I also told him to advise me
of the developments.
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RESIDING TWO NINE TWO ONE CHICAGO STREET, HOUSTON, CONTACTED THIS™
OFFICE DECEMBER TWENTY SEVENTH ON CAPTIONED MATTER AND IN SIGNED
STATEMENT TODAY SUBMITTED THE FOLLOWING. NOACK, EMPLOYEDMAS A
MACHINIST BY HUMBLE OIL COMPANY, HOUSTON, LEFT HOUSTON BY COMMERCIAL
AIRLINE DECEMBER FIFTH LAST ON BUSINESS FOR HOLLYWOOD, CALIF. ON
MONDAY, DECEMBER SIXTH, CONTACTED R.C. PERSON, FOUR ONE ONE SIX AVALON
BLVD., LA., AN ACQUAINTANCE, WHO REMARKED OF HAVING SEEN ON THAT DATE,
SOME DISTANCE FROM HOLLYWOOD IN A DESERT AREA, WHAT APPEARED TO BE A
FLYING DISK. PERSON OPERATES VASCO ELECTRICAL MANUFACTURING CO., LA.,
ADAMS FIVE TWO EIGHT ONE. ON DECEMBER SEVENTH, NOACK, PERSON, AND
MR. AND MRS. NATHAN SMITH, ONE NAUGHT FIVE SOUTH PASADENA AVE., SOUTH
PASADENA, CALIF,, DEPARTED BY PRIVATELY OWNED AUTOMOBILE IN SEARCH OF [
DISK. SAME LOCATED APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILES NORTHEAST
OF PASADENA AND ABOUT TWENTY MILES NORTHEAST OF LONE Pl{@t, CALIF.
PERSON, SMITH, AND NOACK TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS OF st§;yi§fi mov%ggfiwpf /) ~|
SPEEDGRAPHIC CAMERAS., THE NOACK FILM WAS EIGHf§%13£§METERSA;N S1zes i
AND CAMERA MADE BY REVERE| DISK: LOGATED DzsszégfikA NEAR NINE HUHbR%WHYz////
ACRES OF LAND OWNED BY PERSON AS 'PRIVATE AIRFIELD. NOACK HAD- HIS FILébJ
DEVELOPED BY EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY AT UNKNOWN ADDRESS LOS PALMAS ST.,LA.
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THESE FILMS RECEIVED NOACK, HOUSTON, BY MAIL DECEMBER TWENTY THIRD
LAST,. GEEE SHOWS DISK TO BE APPROXIMATELY SEVEN FEET IN DIAMETER
AND APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET THICK IN MIDDLE WITH FEATHER EDGE ON RIM.
ABUTTING SAUCER IN MIDDLE AND ON BOTH SIDES ARE FOUR FOOT WINGS
RESEMBLING CONVENTIONAL AIRPLANE TYPE. NO MARKINGS, NO RADIO, AND
APPEARED TO HAVE LANDED AT GREAT SPEED. DISK IN COMPARATIVELY GOOD
CONDITION, THE ENDS OF BOTH WINGS HAD ATTACHED A SMALL ALUMINUM
CYLINDER APPARENTLY FOR JET PROPULSION. ONE OF THESE CYLINDERS OBTAINED
BY NOACK AS SOUVENIR AND CURRENTLY IN POSSESION OF TEiE—SEEEEE}7 FILM
SIMILARLY MAINTAINED. SA ROBEEI_EEEELEEL-OSI RggfiESE§I§IZYE, ELLINGTON
EIELD, TEXAS,.NOTIFIED DECEMBER TWENTY..SEVENTH. NOACK FILM EXHIBITED
THIS OFFICE INSTANT DATE AND SHOWS DISK IN ALL POSITIONS AND ARE
AUTHENTIC. MR. FLEMING, 0SI, ON DECEMBER TWENTY‘EIGHTH NOTIFIED
DISTRICT COMMANDER, FIFTH 0SI DISTRICT, WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO.
SAC R. B, HOOD, LA., NOTIFIED TELEPHONICALLY OF ABOVE INFORMATION
WITH REQUEST THAT-QE MAINTAIN CONTACT WITH R. C. PERSON IN ORDER THAT
BME@;@STX{“@E@IVOFVEWACVCOMPAN‘[ 0SI REPRESENTATIVES IN ACTUALLY
OBéEEfiifig,AND RETRIEVING FLYING DISK, THIS ACTION TAKEN PER BUREAU
IQE;RUCTIONS. NO FACILITIES AVAILABLE HOUSTON FOR REPRODUCING MOVIE
FILM OF NOACK, HOWEVER, STILL SHOTS CAN" BE :DEVELOPED BY COMPETENT
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COMMERCIAL REPRESENTATIVES. ACTION TO BE TAKEN BY 0SI, DAYTON, OHIO,
NOT KNOWN AT THIS MOMENT AND IT IS POSSIBLE THEY MAY DESIRE FILM
FOR REPRODUCTION THEIR FACILITIES THERE. IF BUREAU DESIRES LA OFFICE
TO OBTAIN FROM PERSON AND SMITH THEIR FILM AND NEGATIVES, THIS MIGHT
BE CONSIDERED, PICTURES TAKEN BY PERSON WITH FOUR BY FIVE SPEEDGRAPHIC
CAMERA AND THZSE PICTURES SHOULD BE READILY AVAILABLE. NOACK FILM
AND PART OF JET PROPULSION WING TIP BEING MAINTAINED HOUSTON AWAITING
SUGGESTED DISPOSITION AND HANDLING BY EITHER BUREAU OR 0SI. CINCINNATI
OFFICE BEING MADE COGNIZANT TO COVER POSSIBILITY THAT BUREAU é};—ENA -
DI&&CT LIAISON.WITH..OSI, DAYTON.. AMSD LETTER FOLLOWS TO BUREAU AND
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FIVE FOUR CHESLEY AVE., LA. ONE PART BEING STAMPED WOLFORD
EESSEER PLASTICS MOLDING CO., LA. TOW TARGET WAS TESTED BY
RICE AND WOLFORD USING RICE,S AIRPLANE OVER NATHAN SMITH,S
AIRFIELD NEAR HELENDALE, CALIF. THE TEST WAS A FAILURE, THE
TARGET CRASHED AND WAS ABANDONED AT THE AIRFIELD. NO FURTHER
INVESTIGATION BEING CONDUCTED AND THE THREE ITEMS SECURED FROM
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and i cted that he attempt to locate Mr. Person and Mr. and Mrs, (ACEY &
Nat/ ith, secure photographs and film in their possession and also M/
secure from them the location of the described flying disc. I also \
instructed that Mr. Hood send out sufficient Agents to find the disc /\\ /
and guard it until it could be properly handled by the appropriate Government 't /
authority. I also telephoned the Houston Office and told them to send e
in the photographs or film in their possession, together with the part which
had been recovered from the machine by the Informant Noack.
At 5:00 p.m., SAC Hood called back and stated that all work on
this matter should be immediately discontinued. They had managed to
reach Mr. Nathan Smith and he stated that he knew all about this matter;
that it was not a flying disc, but an object which had been identified
as a tow kite, which has a disc center and wings. This kite is actually
made in Los Angeles by the Olson and Rice Mamufacturing Company. A call
was made to Olson and Rice, who admitted making a kite along the lines
) described by Mr. Smith and they explained that they had tried to fly it
and it had failed and they had abandoned it.
Mr. Hood stated he did not have full details at the time of his
call, but he did have this report from the Agents. Therefore, I instructed
that he call Mr. Willis of the Houston Office immediately in order that the
film and the part available to the Houston Office will not be forwarded
for Laboratory examination.
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There are being submitted herewith two photographs of reputedi: "flying i
saucers’ which were seen at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, sometime during Jul,y!g' 1%7. !
All of the information contained in this letter was received from Mr, GHORGE j
RATHMAN, Chief Investigator, Security Division, Atemic Energy Commission, and |
Colonel C. D, GASSER, Resident Engineer, Air Material Command, United States
Army, who is the principal army technician at the Nuclear Energy for the Pro-
pulsion of Aircraft Research Center at Oak Ridge, Temnessee.
/ Mr. RATHMAN advised that the attached photographs were taken by W. R,
/ PRESLEY in July of 1947, He stated that interview with PRESLEY revealed that he
had been snapping photographs of his family in front of his residence at 218
I1linois Avenwe, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, late in the aftermoon, when he looked
into the sky and observed the vapor trail as exhibited by the photograph numbered
"1." PRESLEY stated that he took a snap of this trail, was winding the film to
A the next number, when he looked into the sky and observed the ball of fire as
' ),shown in photograph 2. Upon observing the unusual phencmena, he used his last
: {‘ \fi.lm in taking photograph #2. PRESLEY made these photographs available to re-
o1 Jporters of the Knoxville News-Sentinel and a story concerning them was run in
,},L' J° that paper; however, as shown by the photostatic copy of the newspaper clipping,
"p/" which is also being submitted herewith to the Bureau, the print was very indis-
tinct; the news story did not contain any factunl information; and i1t was regarded
generally by the public at the time as a .ossible trick.
Later, it was learmed by Mr. RATHM .| und Colonel GASSER that PRESLEY
had made several coples of this photograph and had distributed them among his
’ acquaintances at Oak Ridge, Temnessee. Upon Colonel GASSER's finding that the
?F photogwaphs had received some distribution, he requested Mr. RATHMAN as Head of
.=, the Compliance and Investigations Division, to recover as many as possible of
{ \) the photographs, advise the persons in whose possession they were found to say
nothing to anyone concerning them, and to return the sald photographs to him PR
W7 Por transmission to the United States Air Force intelligence S&rvics. Mr, RATHMAN
I ¥l “advises that he succeeded in rounding up twenty-four copiles of these photographs,
and that, according to the statements of PRESLEY, no more copies were made or
distributed. RATHMAN further stated that GASSER had appeared extremely concerned
over the matter and seemed to be quite emphatic that the matter should be given
no more publicity than was absolutely necessary. RATHMAN also advised that he
studied the negatives from which the reproductions were made, and they appeared N
to be authenmtic in that trick photography should have been apparent, fout frun/the : HDL
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negatives certainly did not appear to be the case. It was Mr. RATHMAN's
observation that had the negative been "doped" with some sort of chemical, it
would have removed the emulsion from the face of the film in such a way that
the neqa.tive would have been thin at the point which 1s supposedly a ball of
fire, wnereas, in fact, both the vapor trail and the corona of fire are dark
on the ’negative, indicating that it was an actual exposure. It was the opinion
of Mr¢. RATHMAN that the photographs were, without doubt, authentic.
In accordance with Bureau instructions, no active investigation of
this matter was made, but it was deemed advisable to interview Colonel GASSER
prior to submitting the photographs to the Bureau.
Colonel GASSERfl}predic ted his remarks concerning the "flying saucers"
or "mystery missiles" by statfi& that he knew nothing of an official nature
concerning them, other than the fact that they were believed by air force
intelligence officials to be man-made missiles, rather than some natural
phenomena. It was his further belief that a great deal of information had been
compiled concerning these missiles by air force intelligence, and that research
on the matter was being extensively done at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio. He also
expressed the opinion that information at the disposal of the United States Army
Ailr Force Intelligence had, in all probability, been made available to the
Bureau at Washington, D. C.
? B}olonel GASSER then continued with his own ideas as to what might be
., | the nature of these discs, which ideas he had formulated through review of
t‘; those known facts and theoretical conjectures of himself and other scientists
{{\g concerning the nature of flying discs and methods of propulsion for such type
‘ of aerial mechanism. According to him, flying discs have long been a theoretical
%, possibility and, in fact, a possibility which would indicate one of the best
}"-\;mea.ns by which to break through the barriers of the supersonic area. Scientists
N “" have, for many years, been attempting to develop this type of aircraft. Some
¥ experimentation has been done even in the United States, but insofar as is
\)b known in the United States at the present time, there have never been any
practical developments. As a second factor of consideration, Colonel GASSER
& stated that insofar as i1s known to U. S. scientists at this time, there is no
{ & Inown chemical fuel which would make possible tremendous range of flight such
& as is ascribed to the reported "flying saucers." There is only one possible
Ҥ fuel which could be utilized which is in accord with present theory, and that
oy is the utilization of atomic energy&j As further evidence of this possible means
:3 of propulsion, Colonel GASSER called attention to the vapor trail and gaseous
> corona described as a ball of fire, which he states might give some evidence
: to the fact that a radio-active field 1s present. He explained that the corona,
or exhaust, has what appears to be layers of intensity which are circular rather
than elongated and have no tendency to trail at the extremities, as would be
the case if a normal type of exhaust from a combustion engine was being utilized
in the propulsion of these aircraft. He continued that the vapor trail left by
the missile appears to be one single line of uniform intensity which is extremely
slow in dissipating. It was pointed out by him that in the case of a normal
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vapor trail being left by an aircraft moving at extremely high speeds or extremely
high altitudes, the vapor trail usually will be from the wing tips and/or the
exhath of the engines, thus presenting several lines. But, in any event, even
ihonfl only one line were visible, it would be rather quick to dissipate. This
1ndi' ted to him that the vapor trail represents some atmospheric change along
the path of the missile, which would not be the case were it any presently known
type of aircraft. A
He continued that information furnished by him should be treated witkh
WW' He stated thaet the matter was being given absolutely no
isserfination by the air force or other military persommel, and that they had
not deemed it advisable to advise him of &ll information pertaining to the missile.
He continued, however, that in his conversation with representatives at Wright
Field and in reading reports returned to this country by foreign agents, he had
gathered together certain information which might be of assistance in determining
whether or not these so-called missiles were autheniis, usable and of danger to
the United States. First, he pointed out that knowledge of such a possible
aircraft is not by any means new, it having been known as early as four years
ago that some type of flying disc wes being experimented with by the Russians.
In addition thereto, he stated that more recent reports have been received
from representatives of the Central Intelligence Agency in Southern Europe and
Southern Asia to the effect that the Russians were experimenting with some type
of radical aircraft or guided missile which could be dispatched for great dis-
tences out over the sea, made to turm in flight and return to the base from which
it was launched. This fact was extremely worthy of notice as experiments in
this country have so far only developed to the point where we are concerned with
delivering a missile to the required point of impact, and no consideration has
been given to imparting to that missile the ability to return. Secondly, he
stated that it is a known fact that the Russians are attempting to develcp
some type of nuclear enmergy, that they received a wealth of information concern-
ing nuclear energy at the time of their occupation in Germany, and that they too
have at their disposal the limited supply of the necessary fissionable materials.
He stated that insofar as any opinion as, towhether or not they have the ability
and scientific knowledge to create such fi;&% is strictly
a metter of conjecture, and that he wou esitate to nite statement.
He pointed out, however, that the Russians have same very capable scientists in
the field of atomic energy and that, in addition thereto, they took into their
custody some of the most advenced and capable scientists of the German Nation.
He also stated that & peculiar fact concerning the missiles exists
from reports he has received which is worthy of notice, and that is that from
all appearances, they usually approach the United States from a northerly direc-
tion and have been reported as returning in a northerly direction. None have
ever been known to crash, collide or disintegrate over American soil, but it
would appear that they come to the United States, cruise around, and go back
over the North Pole. He states that insofar as is known to him, there has never
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been any piece of one recovered from any source whatever in order that amalytical
study of its nature could be made. Insofar as was known to him, the only actual
mterikl which would be of any value in determining its nature are telephoto
fi; phe which are now in the possession of engineers at Wright Field, Dayton,
Ohi How detailed end how clear these photographs are, he was unable to state.
He stated that one report has been received concerning & collision of these
missiles with another type of aircraft. This report, according to him, took
place a short time prior to the report of numerous disce over the United States,
and the report emanated from Czechoslovakia, This report was that a Czecho-
slovakian transport had collided with some unidentified missile while in mid-air
over the oceen, and that sald missile and said transport had been completely
disintegrated without recovery of parts or survivors from either. It was the
belief of Colonel GASSER that this undescribed missile was perhaps the same type
of thing as the flying aucer.> Another factor of notice, according to Colonel
GASSER, and as is portrayed by the photographs, it would appear that the missiles
can be maintained at a certain altitude above the contour of the ground. This
could be done by means of scme type of radio altimeter or radio control. Natu-
rally, the path of the missile is not in exact parallel to the contour, as its
purported great speed would create comnsiderable lag in its flight. Another
factor which is worthy of note, according to Colonel GASSER, is that it is
normally reported as being seen at tremendously high altitudes and always travel-
ing in a straight line. He stated that he himself observed,on one occasion, a
single vapor trail coming from some type of aircraft at unbelievably high altitudes,
which vapor trail extemded from horizon to horizon in a perfectly straight line.
He observed the vapor trail while it was in the process of formation and states
that it was completely unlike any vapor trail he had ever observed before in all
of his experience with the air force. It was his Judgment that whatever created
the vapor trail was traveling &t an unbelievably trememdous speed. This, together
with reports that when close to the groumd, the missile travels at speeds which
make possible visual observation of its actioms, would reflect that there is
some ability to control the speed of these missiles as well as the altitude.
<Colonel GASSER concluded that this matter, while still purely a matter
of guesswork, 1s nevertheless & source of great concern to the military establish-
ment of this country. Great efforts have been expended by the service to determine
Just what the nature of these missiles might be and, upon so determining, decide
whether or not an adequate defense can be established. He also stated that it
hae given impetus to the research being dome by the air force in their own pro- x
gram of nuclear emergy for the propulsion of aircraft to develop guided missiles.>
He also advised that insofar as was known to him, there was absolutely no con-
nection between these missiles and the fact that they were observed close to
Oak Ridge, Temnessee. He stated thet this was perhaps, and probably, a matter
of coincidence and they were seen in this area merely as they were seen in forty-
six of the forty-eight states of the United States during the Month of July when
80 many reports were being received.
Thig informetion is being submitted to the Bureau for whatever value 1t
may be, and no further action in the metter 1s being contemplated by this office,
unless advised to the contrary.
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TO/ : DArector, FBI DATE: . 12/28/48
FROM N@AC, Houston
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( LONNIE EDWARD/NOACK, Complainant N 4 |
Attention: Assistant Director D.M. Ladd v
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Remytel 12/28/48 in the above captioned matter.
‘ggp/the Buyeau's information, on 12/27/48 Mr. FULLER
LACKWELL, an attorney with offices 410 Kress Building,
Houston, Texas, telephonically contacted the Hou&ton
Office to advise that he had a friend, LONNIE,N%XCK,
who had some information on an object which Miight be
a flying disc. Mr. BLACKWELL stated he was calling in
response to Mr. NOACK's suggestion and as a means of
determining what authorities would have an interest
in this matter. He said Mr. NOACK was a machinist
employed by the Humble 0il and Refining Company, Houston.
Mr. BLACKWELL, in calling, advised that the disc, or /
object, was approximately eight feet in diameter, had a
tail and wings, and apparently was equipped for Jet
propulsion. He stated NOACK had observed this _object
at a desert location near Las Vegas, Nevada; further,
that Mr. NOACK had taken some movie film of the disc and
that this film was currently in his possession.
Immediately upon receipt of the above information,
Mr. Robert B. Fleming, Special Agent, 0.S.I., Ellington ;
Field, Texas, was notified as was true of Captain Harold /4
Bush, MID representative, also Houston. As a result of y
these referrals, arrangements were effected with Mr.
NO%@K to bring his film to the Houston Office for a showi
L &8%8 P.M., 12/27/48. This was done with Messrs. Bush,
gf\hFleming, Noack, and Special Agent Graham W. Kitchel and
@fifiv' c. the writer observing. Arrangements were then made for Y,
@ Mr. NOACK to again appear at the Houston Office on the
¥ \\ morning of 12/28/48 in order that his information might be
educed to writing. Mr. NOACK in making his initial
! &pearance at the office surrendered,his movie film which
x\ zsconsisted of one 50 foot roll of & #im movielfi¥m. Approximately
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Director
Re: Flying Disc
HO 12/28/48
While observing the object, Mr. NOACK noted an aluminum
cylinder which had become detached from one of the wing
tips and he brought this back with him as a souvenir. This
cylinder conceivably could act as a rudder, a rocket
housing, or fuel tank attachment. Mr. NOACK initialled
the cylinder and surrendered it also.
There are attached hereto for the Bureau two copies of a
signed statement taken from Mr. NOACK dated Houston, Texas,
12/28/48. Two copies of the statement are attached for
the Los Angeles Office, and one informational copy 1s being
designated for the Cincinnati Division. The original is
being retained in the Houston file. One copy of the statement
is attached to the copy of this letter for the FBI Laboratory.
During the interview with Mr. NOACK, Mrs. ROSE C. ROTSEL, a
stenographer for 0.S.I., Ellington Field, recorded the
statement for 0.S.I. use.
Initial information obtained concerning this flying disc
was furnished telephonically to Inspector Howard Fletcher
at the Bureau, 9 A.M., 12/28/48. Mr. Fletcher requested
the Bureau be given a summary of the information by teletype,
with interested offices being similarly notified, and that
the signed statement of NOACK be submitted AMSD. He further
instructed that he did not want the Bureau "side tracked" in
the handling of this matter, but that FBI representatives
should assume an active interest in the investigation
throughout, cooperating, of course, with 0.S.I. representatives.
Mr. Fleming's headquarters are the District Commander, 5th
0.S.I. District, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio. On the morning
of 12/28/48 Mr. Fleming sent a telegram to his District
Commander giving a general summary of the original complaint.
Mr. Fleming was unable to advise how the 5th 0.S.I. District
would handle their inquiry in this matter. He stated this
could either be handled by Wright Field dispatching a special
plane to California or by having their District Commander, 18D,
0.S.I., San Bernardino, California handle it. He stated
in any event it would be necessary for 0.S.I. representatives
to first confer with Mr. R.C. PERSON, named in this statement,
as being the individual who initially discovered the flying
disc and would know also 1ts present whereabouts.
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Director
Re: Flyin% Disc
HO 12/28/48
Mr. PERSON, as indicated, maintains a business at 4116
Avalon Boulevard, Los Angeles, California, telephone
Adams 5281.
To insure the Bureau's participation in this matter,
SAC R.B. Hood, of the Los Angeles Office, was contacted
telephonically at approximately 11:30 A.M. (CST)
12/28/48 with the suggestion he maintain contact with
Mr. PERSON. 9
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film received from Mr. NOACK, together with the aluminum j;/
portion of the fuselage, is being forwarded separately to ?%fi.,'Lv
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Q Houston, Texas
‘ Dee. 28, 1948
, I, LONNIE EDWARD NOACK, residing 2921 Chicago
Street, Houston 17, Texas, make the following statement to
Special Agent Nobert B, Fleming and Christopher R. Bradley,
representatives of the Office of Special Investigation,
Ellington OSI Detachment, Ellington F&eld. Texas, and
Special Agents Graham W. Kitchel and “alen N. Willis who
I mow to be Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation.
On Monday afternoon December 6, 1948, at about
6 P.M., Mr. R.C. PERSON, Mr. NATHAN SMITH, Mr. C,A. TOCE,
Mr. ROBERT BROUSSARD and another man, name not recalled,
and I had dinner at the 0l1d Virginia Inn, Los Angeles,
California. After dinner we went back to Mr. Smith's
electrical manufacturing company which he owns and operates
in Los Angeles, California. Mr. PERSON told us about seeing
a flying disc and we made an appointment to leave early
the next morning by car, with our cameras, to go to the
location of the disc. Mr. PERSON was detained at some
private air field so we did not leave until about 2 P.M.
on December 7, 1948. We arrived at the scene of the
flying disc and ook pictures of the disc which was still
lying around. Mr. SMITH took about 10 feet of 16 mm film
and Mr. PERSON took five or six shots with a Speed Graphic
Camera. He noticed that the first three shots were taken
when the adapter on his lens was closed too much and I
don't know if they turned out all right. Mr, SMITH
suggested I hold the flying disc up and rotate 1t around
and heé would take my picturé with my camera. After
taking the pletures, we patched the fence of Mr. FERSON's
property where people had been cutting the wire to get to
a road, We left and then drove back and had dinner at
Eaton's Inn and they took me back home to Hollywood,
California.
I would like to recite that I left Houston, Texas
11:30 A.M. on Sunday, December 5, 1948, for California by
plane and flew to Hollywood, California on a commercial
plane on business matters. On arriving in Hollywood, I met
Mr. PERSON in Hollywood on Monday, December 6, 1948, and
at that time he told me about the flying disc he had located.
He stated he had gone to Las Vegas by his personal plane
and saw the disc from the air on his way back.
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On December 7, 1948 we went out in Mr. NATHAN
SMITH's car and picked up his wife and left his home in
South Pasadena about 11 A.M. We drove out to an airport
where his plane was about forty miles from Pasadena wWere
he was having the plane repaired. He wanted to be sure
the plane was on a truck before we left for the destination
where the disc was. In making this trip, we proceeded
out by a race track and passed one of the Kaiser steel
works and the Virginia Dare Wine Orchard. I would say
we went directly north or northeast from Pasadena,
California. We drove through a town called Matonia
(phonetic) and followed a road through some mountains and
through a small desert. I would estimate the distance from
Pasadena to where the disc was found to be about 150 miles.
The terrain in which the disc was found could be described
as flat,desert, and desolate.
I would like to explain that Mr. PERSON has
private property (an airport which he purchased from the
government) right by the location of the disc. Mr., PERSON
thought the disc might have been launched from his airport,
but whether that was it or not - we don't know. Mr, PERSON
gsaid he usually flew at an altitude of about 8,000 feet
and, of course, he flew lower in some spaced. He did not
mention his altitude at the time he first saw the disec.
The disc was located practically Jjust outside his property
and we were going north, so it would be east of his property.
He has about 500 acres.
When we arrived at Mr. PERSON's property, we saw
the dise, or flying wing, and it was on the ground in a
semi-vertical position, approximately a2 45 degree angle,
with the left wing imbedkd in the ground. In looking at
the ground, it appeared that the object had hit the earth with
considerable force and had slid 300 to 400 feet. It was
dented but was generally intact. I think the pictures I took
with a Revere 8 mm camera quite well show the form, shape
and size of the "wing." I am 5'7" tall and in standing next
to the object when it was in an upright position, it was
slightly higher than my height. I would say it was roughly
seven feet in diameter, before crashing.
On each side of the object there were wings
approximately four feet by twenty inches and three inches thick
with an axle that protruded through the disc and into the wings.
It was mounted on ball bearings which the disc rotated on.
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The disc imelf was approximately two feet thick
in the center, tapering to a feather edge at theerim. On
the outside of the dise, near the rim, there were funnel
shaped cups bradded on and these were spaced all around
on both sides, each cup belng spproximately twenty inches
apart. The openings of these cups were to the rear. The
dise itself was natural aluminum with no paint on it except
of the type of aluminum which was 2% 3.T, and it bore this
stamp. The wings were painted a yellow-green camouflage
color.
The wing has a leading edge similar to that of
an airplane and tapers to the rear to a feather edge. The
wing was ribbed throughout with aluminum ribs for substantial
strength. Each wing had a2 similar rocket cartridge on each
tip fastened by two bolts. I had one of the wings in my
possession and have turned 1t over to the proper authorities.
The cartridge on the one I had was apparently knocked off
in the crash.
There were two strut bars attached approximately
twenty inches from the dise¢ leading to the rear with an
elevator. Also, the two struts protruded toward the front
with something attached, a weight or some tow system, which
was during the crash anchored into the ground and bent
and we could not exactly determine how it was weighted or
controlled. I would say the elevator was approximately
twenty-two inches long and about 5/8 inch thick with a slight
taper to the rear and probably ten inches wide. The struts:
extending from the trailing edge of the wing to the elevator
were made of 5/8 inch steel tubing. The disc, in being
1ifted, I would judge to weigh from 80 to 100 pounds.
With respect to the pictures taken, I took
approximately 15 feet of colored 8 mm film.
The disc was bullt where they had the proper
equipment to do the necessary work because they had to have
a spot welder and building equipment to make the different
angles. I might add that I am an instrument maker for the
Humble 011l and Refining Company and have a generally good
knowledge of machine and metal work. There was nothing on
the object to indicate its origin, whether American or foreign
make. It would appear, however, from the aluminum,workmanship,
ete. that it probably was American made.
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After we finished taking our pictures and discussing
the object among ourselves, Mr. PERSON expressed an intention
of obtaining a truck and hauling the object to his shop. I
cannot say at this time whether he did this or not or where
the object may be at this particular date. We finished
our observation and picture taking at approximately 5:30
or 6 P.M, on December 7.
In response to Mr. Fleming's inquiry, there was np
radio equipment noted on the obJject in any fashion or form.
We returned to Pasadena, California, that evening
arriving in Hollywood about 9 or 9:30 P.M. I took some more
plctures that night along Hollywood Boulevard on the unfinished
roll of film and then wetn over the Chinese Theatre and took
a picture of the signature of George Raft and finished the roll.
I bought another roll of film, and took them to the Eastman Kodak
Company the following Monday which would be December 13, 1948.
As I recall, this Eastman shop was on Los Palmas Street in
Los Angeles, California. They informed me they would develop
the film and that it would be ready on Thursday. I left :
California on Wednesday so they mailed the film to me at my
business address, Humble 01l Building, Room 159, Houston, Texas.
I received these films on December 23, 1948.
After my return from California I mentioned to several
of my business and soecial acquaintances that I had seen this
objeet, a dise or saucer or whatever you might call it, and
told them that I had taken pictures and would be glad to show
them when the pictures arrived. As stated, I received the
film on December 23 and at 1;30 P.M. on the same date I showed
the film in the projection §oon at Humble 011 to the following:
D.W. BLAIR; J. HATTAWAY; A, PETERSON; JAMES S. OLIVIER;
WILLIAM RIED, JR.; A.E. MELETON; WAYNE CRAWFORD; D.A. BATTLE
and two other men whose names I do not recall. All of these
men work in the instrument shop with me at Humble 01l & Refining
Company. I also showed the film to my brother-in-law, E. KULAK,
of Pasadena, Texas, at home on the following night.
On Christmas Day I met some friends and one of the
girls was with a young boy who was interested in photography.
I do not know his name but he works at Southern Pacifie. I told
him I had some pictures of the flying disc but I did not show him
the pictures but explained the dise. I think this boy 1is the
person who had his friend at the newspaper contact me.
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I got home about 10:30 A.M. and FRANK REED,
of the City Desk at the "Houston Post" called me and wanted
to know about the dise. I told him I could not give him
any information on it. Me begged me for the story, but I
told him I would let him Jmow and that I had friends I
had to contact before I could give him any information.
I then got in touch with Mr. Blackwood, my
lawyer, the following morning and asked him if he knew
anyone in the FBI. He stated all the FBI personnel he lmew
were no longer stationed here. I then contacted the FBI
and turned the material over to them.
Although I can't describe where this object is
located, I believe I could go back to it and I am sure
Mr. PERSON and and Mr. SMITH could go back to it.
Mr. NATHAN SMITH's business address is Nathan
Smith Electrical Company, 105 South Pasadena Avenue, South
Pasadena, California. Mr. R, C, PERSON is president of
the Vasco Electrical hnufaoturing Company, 4116 Avalon
Boulevard, Los Angeles, California.
For record purposes, in taking the pictures above
referred to, I did so using exposure of 16 frames per second
at a diaphragm opening of £6.3. I used ¥ine-Kodak Kodachrome
film.
RAiZeniior The above statement, made voluntarily and for the
redention of proper authorities, is made to my best knowledge
and belief.
TLONNIE EDWARD WOACK
Witnesses:
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§ ENCLOSURE TO THE BUREAU
RE: FLYING DISC;
LONNIE EDWARD NOACK, Complainant
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8AC, Houston Jenuary 25, 1949
Director, FBI /
FLYING UISCS ./
LONNIE EDWARDANUACK, Complainant
Reference is made to Los Angeles teletype dated 12/29/48 and to
Hoaston teletype dated 12/28/48, and the subsequent transmittal of an
8mm movie film taken by Mr. LONNIE NOACK, along with several parts of
the supposed flying disc to the luboratory for examination.
Since prior to receipt of the above items by the laboratory the
information was obtained which identified the supposed flying disc as a
tow target and later a toy kite, no examination was conducted here.
Accordingly, these items are being returned to you via registered
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14 I thought you might be interested in the following informstion i o ——
concerning "Flying Discs" which hgfieen fyrnished to the Bureau on a e PonoTHETAT
confidential basis by Colonel C, D(Gasser, Resident Engineer, Air Teis; Roon ~ —
Material Command, U. S.Army, who is the principal army technician at the i &y ——
Nuclear EMeYgy for the Fropulsion of Aircraft Rescarch Center. at. Oak-Ridge,———
Tennessee.
Colonel Gasser stated that he knew nothing of an official nature concerning
"Flying Discs" other than the fact that they are believed by Air Force Intelligence
officials to be man-made missiles, rather than some natural phenomena. It was his
further belief that a great deal of information has been compiled concerning these
missiles by air force intelligence, and that research on the matter was being
extensively done at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio.
Colonel Gasser then continued with his own ideas as to what might be
the nature of these discs which ideas he had formulated through review of those
known facts and theoretical conjectures of himself and other scientists concerning
the nature of flying discs and methods of propulsion for such type of aerial
mechanism. According to him, flying discs have long been a theoretical possibility,
and,in fact, a possibility which would indicate one of the best means by which to
break through the berrisrs of the supersonic area. He stated that scientists have,
for many years, been attempting to develop this type of aircraft. Some experi-
mentation has been done even in the United States, but insofar as is known in the
United States at the present time, there have never been any practical developments.
As a second factor of consideration, Colonel Gasser stated that insofar as is known
to U. S. scientists at this time, there is no known chemical fuel which would make
possible tremendous range of flight such as is ascribed to the reported "flying
discs." According to Gasser, there is only one possible fuel which could be
utilized which is in accord with present theory, and that is the utilization of
atomic energy.
He stated that this subject matter was being given absolutely no dissemination
by the air force or other military personnel, _and that they had not deemed it
advisable to advise him of all information pertaining to this type missile. He
continued, however, that in his conversation with representatives at Wright Field
and in reading reports returned to this country by foreign agents, he had gathered
together certain information which might be of assistance in determining whether or
not these so-called missiles were authentic, usable and of danger to the United States.
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He pointed out that knowledge of such a possible aircraft. is not by any means
) new and that it was known as early as four years ago.that some type of £lying
disc was being experimented with by the Russians. In addition he said that more
recent reports have been received from representatives of the Central Intelligence
Agency in Southern Europe and Southern Asia to the effect that the.Russians were
experimenting with some type of radical aircraft or guided missile which could be
dispatched for great. distances out over the sea, made to turn in flight and return
to the base from which it was launched. He related that this information was
extremely worthy of notice as experiments in this country have so far only developed
to the point where we are concerned with delivering amissile to the required point
Y ~. ©of impact, and no consideration has been given to imparting to that missile the
R & ability to return. He also advised that it is a known fact that the Russians are
i w attempting to develop some type of nuclear energy s..that they received a wealth of
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{4 and that they have at their disposal a limited supply of fissionable materizls:
- iy He pointed out that the Russians haye some very capable scientists in the field
of atomc energy and that, in addition thereto, they took into their custody some
of the most advanced and capeble scientists of the German Nation. .
Colonel Gasser stated that a peculiar fact concerning these missiles
is found in reports he has received,that from all appearances the missiles
usually approach the United States from a northerly direction and have been reported
as_returning in a northerly direction. He advised that none have ever been known
to_crash, collide or disintegrate over American soil, but it would &ppear that they
come to the United States, cruise around, and go back over the North Fole. He
stated that insofar as is known to him there has never been any part of a missile
of this type recovered from any source whatever in order that an analytical study
of its nature could be made. He stated that ong report has been received concerning
a collision of these missiles with another type of aircraft. This report, according
to him, emanated from Czechoslovakia and took place a short time prior to the report
of numerous discs over the United States. According to Colonel Gasser a_Czechoslovakian
transport hed reportedly collided with some unidentified missile while in mid-air
over the océan, end that the missile and transport were completely disintegrated
wi@?fi_fifis or survivors from either.
Colonel Gasser concluded that this matter, while still purely a matter
of guesswork, is nevertheless a source of great concern to the military establishment
of this country. He advised that gréeat efforts have been expended by the military
service to determine the nature of these missiles and upon so determining, decide
whether or not an adequate defense Can be established. He stated that it has given
impetus to the research being done by the air force in their own program of nuclear
energy for the propulsion of aircraft to develop guided missiles.
ACTION:
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Authority:
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STAFF MESSAGE CENTER
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Officer of the Inspector General
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phenomena, file number 24.8, Sighting of identical object
reported at 22552 30 Jan 49 by aprx 30 people. Estimate at
least 100 total sightings. AEC, AFSWP, 4th Army, local
commanders perturbed by implications of phenomena. Sighting
reported from El Paso, Alburquerque, Alamogordo, Roswell,
Socorro, and other locations, All appear to be saume object at
different points in trajectory, Unless instructed to contrary _
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Office Memomndum ¢ UNITED STaino «OVERNMENT
TO : Director, FBI DATE: February 18;-1949
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Reference is made to Knoxville letter to the Director dated January’ 10,
1949, entitled as above.
There is being forwarded for the Bureau's information a copy of
a letter from Colonel C, D. GASSER, USAF, AMC Engineering Field 3
Officer, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, to Mr. G. J. RATHMAN, Securlty
Division, U. S. Atomic Energy Commission, Oak Ridge. This letter
is self explanatory and reveals that the photographs forwarded
with referenced letter are the result of accident or purposeful
‘ hoax and are not actually photographs of a "fl ii:3 saucer".
; | Colonel GASSER personally advised that while the photographs
| | are not real, his statements msde concsrulng the existence of
| | flying saucers and the opinions =xpreised by him nevertheless
| | stand as previously stated.
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Dear Mr. Rathman
This is in response to your letter dated 16 December 1948,
subject "Photographs", with inclosures, addressed to Major
D. J. Grant at this site, concerning photographs taken during
the month of July 1947 by Mr. William Presley of 218 Illinois
Avenue, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, of an unidentified object that
appeared to be flying over Oak Ridge.
Since receipt by Major Grant of the above material, this office
has taken steps to secure an evaluation of same by the Air Force
office of the Chief, Technical Intelligence Division, Intelli-
gence Department, Air Materiel Command, at Wright-Patterson Air
Force Base, Dayton, Ohio. As a result, the following informa-
tion has been revealed:
"When the negative, containing the sphere, is examined
by strong incident light, 1t is noted that the emmlsion
is raised at that point above the normal level of the
remaining emlsion., This indicates that either a drop
of warm water or a drop of developer struck the film at
this point and rolled down this negative and the succeed-
ing negative.
"To further substantiate this, it will be noted that when
the two (2) negatives are placed side by side with the
edges of the film aligned, the so-called "trail" 1s con-
tinuous, that is the two sections match, indicating the
drop rolled on from one negative to the next.
"S111 further proof is shown on the fogged edge of the
negative containing only the trail. This is proven by
the fact that the trail extends beyond the normal format
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AEC, dated 10 February 1949, Re Photographs
of the negative. In other words, there is a traill of
that section of the negative which was not exposed in
the camera. This effect shows up in one negative and
not in the other because the negative in question is
fogged; therefore, this irregularity was developed.
"Still further proof of these defects lies in the number
of unevenly developed sections of the negative."
In view of the above, it is recommended that this entire matter
be declassified and that Mr, Presley be advised of the nature of
the images, if and when the negatives are returned to him by your
office.
For your information, this office is taking the liberty of furnish-
ing a copy of this communication to Mr. C. C. McSwain, Special
Agent, FBI, because of official interest evidenced by his office
in the matter.
Your cooperation in furnishing photographs and negatives, together
with information contained in your letter of 16 December 1948 to
MaJjor Grant, is sincerely appreciated.
Very truly yours,
C. D. GASSER
Colonel, USAF
AMC Engineering Field Officer
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wASHINGTON, D. C.
Date Case References
1725749 FLYING DISCS
Donaigned o o LONNIE EDWARD NCACK, Complainant
Tapar G TOUNEIRE D o s R SO GI YO R a e E
List of Contents
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COMMUNICATIONS SECTION iBmm Movie Film, 5 Do nx, 6228 1P o
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SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS: Mail Room, place date of shipment and registry nun{l’)er; Shipping Room; show
date of shipment and imitial this invoice; then return it to persou whose name is checked in column at
right. After this checked name has been initialled, invoice should be placed in administrative file.
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S TANDARD FORM NO. 64 ‘ ] ‘
-OfiiCe Memorandum - vNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
To DIRECTOR, FBI January 31, 1949
g DATE:
proM S4C, Sali ANTONIO
POTROTION OF VITAL INST/IL.ATIONS ’
SUBJECT:iA.OVJ:‘_AleOI: “01” \.]riml: INST/ILATIONS /
BURZ.U FILE # 65-58300
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4t recent Tieekly Intelligence Conferences of G-2, ONI, 08I, and F.D.I., 2
in the Fourth /rmy .rea, Oificers of G-2, Fourth .rmy have discussed the
matter o{?«"llnidcntificd Jircraft" er "Unidentified iAerizl Phonomena' otherwise
movin as MFlying Discs" @Flying Seucers", and "Bells of Fire". This matter
is considered top secret by Iatelligence Officers of both the ixy and bhe
Zir Forces,
It is wcll known thot there have been during the past two yecis reports from
the various parts of the country of the sighting of unidentified cerial
objects which have been cclled in newspeper porlance "flying discs" and
nflying saucers". The first such sightings were reported from Sweden, and
it wios thought that the objccts, the nature of which was unknown, might have
origincted in Rlussia.
In July 1946 an unidentified aireraft was "seen" by an Eastern Lirlines
Pilet and Co-Pilot ond onc or more passcngers of the Eastern .irlincs Plane @
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over liontgomery, ilabeme. This aircraft was reported to be of an uncon- i
ventional type without wings anc rcsembled generally a "rocket ship" of the ;2_
typc depicted in comic strips. It wos reported to have had windovis; to v
have been larger then the Zastern sirlincs plenc, and to heve been traveling
ct an cstimated spced of 2700 miles cn hour. It oppearcd out of a thunder-
head ahcad of the Zestern Airlincs plane and immediestely disgppeared in .:no’(,hcg'
cloud norrowly missing o collision with the Zastern iirlines plane, No
sound or oir disturbance was notced in connection with this cppcearence,
During the past two months various sightings of uncxplained phenomena heve
been reported in the vicinity of the L.E.C. Installation ot Los /[lomos,
New licxico, wherc thesc phenomenc now appear to be concentroted, During
December 1948 en the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 11th, 13, 1l4th, 20th ond 28th
sightings of uncxpleoincd phenomena wiere made neor Los Jlamos by Specicl
.gents of the Office of Spceial Investigotion; .irline Pilobs; Hilitery
Iilots, Los ilemos 3ceurity Inspectors, and privatc citizens., On
Jonuary 6, 1949, another similar object was sightcd in the samc arcas
Dr, LINCOLN L.. P..Z, 2 llctcorologist.ef some note, has been generally in
cherge of the ebservotions ncer Los .leomos, cttempting to learn character-
istics of the unex»laincd phenomenc.
Uo to this time little concrcte informction has been obtoined.
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DIRECTOR, FBI 1/31/49
There hove been day time sightings which are tentotively considercd to possibly
rcscnble the exhoust of some typc of jet propelled object, Hight-time sightings
hove teken the form of lights usuclly described as brilliont grcen, siuilar
to o green traffic signel or green ncon light. Some reports indicated that the
light begen ond ended with & red or orange flssh, Other rcports haove given the
color 2s red, white, blu-vhite, and yellowish green. Trcoiling lights some=
tinncs observed are scid to be red. The spcetrum anclysis of one light indicatcs
th t mey be copper compound of the typc known to bc used in rocket
experiments and vhich coiletcly disintegretes upon cxplosion, lceoving ne
debris, It is noted thot no debris has cver been linovn to be locczted anyuhcre
recsulting from the uncxpleined phenomena,
Recent obscrvotions hove iadiccted that the unidentificd phcnomena travel at
of tuelve miles per sccond, or o mgan calculated speed of scven and onc-helf
miles a seccond, or 27,000 miles an hour. Their reported course indicctes that
they trevel on an Eost - Ticst linc uith probability thot they cpproach from
if they originated in Russic. hen obscrved they scar to be in level flight
ot o height of six to ten milcs and thus travcling on tongent to the carth!s
surfaccs They occosionall:” dip at the end of the poth and on tvio occosions
o Qcfinitc verticcl chenge in »nath wies indiccteds Thesc phenomena have not
been lmown to have been sighted, houcver, ot cany intermedicte point betucen
"torget", nemely, Los ..lomos,
In cvery casc but one the shepe of the objects has been reported as round
;ives o diomond shepe; cnother indicates thot treiling lights are elongoted.
Thc size is usuclly coipercd to onc-fourth the dicacter of the full moon, and
sizc of a baoscball,
On no occssion has sound been associnted dircetly with the phenomenc, but
uncxplained sounds have been redorted from Los .lcmos, On tuo occrsions
rcports hove been reecived of the sighting of multiplc units,
Somc ninc scientific rcasons cre stoted to exist vhich indicoted thot the
phcnomcna observed are not duc to meteorites. The only conclusions rcached
thus far arc thot they crc either hithcrte unobscrved naturcl phenomena or
thot they ore men mede, o scicntific cxperiments arc Lnown to cxist in this
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iivse 1IADELIUE GVYNNE MELCH.IIT £ the subject of o letter from the jtlonta office
to the Burecu deted isugust 10, 1948, entitled, MIDELINE G YNNE MZERCHANT;
INFORILLTION CONCERNTIIGS"
She has written many letters to lillitary Juthorities concerning her theories
recgording Atomic Energy. Sie hoo gcncrelly been considered unrelicble and
ossibly mentelly unbalenced, She, however, has submitted to lilitary
authoritics the only theory thus for knovn that hes any credibility at all,
nenely, thet the lights are ncnifestations of cosmic roys which arc dirccted
tovard & specific point. She further theorizes that such raoys mey interfere
with the ignition of motors end mey account for various unexplained air crashes,
The above is submitted for the confidential information of the Bureau and
offices to which copies of this letter are directcd so thet these officcs may
instellations at Los .lamos, New licxico, S.ndia B.se, New ilexico, and Cri'3
Hoody Texas. JLny information developed should be expcditiousl;” trensmitted to
G=2, Fourth ixny.
I is further noted thet G-2 and 0.S.I. arc actively sngzged in investigating
this mottery No investigation is being conductcd by this officc.
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STANDARG,FORM 0. 64 o ', - ‘3
: Ofiice iVIemomndz;m * UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
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: Mre. Ladd ‘ . DATE: March 1l, 1949
FROM' : Mr. Fletcher ¢/ o, ey ———
4 Mr, Glavin
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SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS i Hosen _———
Mr. Egan —
Mr. Gurnea
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The approval of the ExecutivesConference is requested for the iiss ety ——
attached SAC letter furnishing to the field the type of infommation
desired by the Intelligence Division of the Air Force in connection with
the captioned matter.
BACKGROUND
You will recall that by Bureau Bulletin #57, Series 1947, dated
October 1, 1947, the field was advised that effective as of that date the
Bureau had discontinued its investigative activities in connection with
flying discs. The field was advised that all future reports concerning
this matter received in the field should be referred to the Air Forces.
Colonel C. D. Gasser, Resident Ingineer, Air Materiel Command,
Nuclear Energy for the Propulsion of Aircraft Research, Oak Ridge,
Tennessee, has recently and confidentially advised the Bureau that
flying discs are believed by the Air Force to be man-made missiles 4
rather than some natural phenomenon and that as much as four years ago
it was learned that some type of flying discs were being experimented
upon by the Russians. It was further determined from Colonel Gasser that
most all of the flying discs seen by persons in the United States approached
this country from a northerly direction and returned in the same direction,
indicating the strong possibility that they are coming from Russia.
The Department of the Air Force has furnished to the Bureau a
sufficient number of copies of a memorandum dated Rebruary 15, 1949 captioned
"Unconventional Aircraft" which can be furnished to our field offices.
At the present time this Bureau is conduct@nglARo2imvédtigation of
information received in the field relating to the captioned,patter. ,, m 2
RECOMMENDATION N A 4
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It is recommended that the attached SAC letter and enclosure be
forwarded to the field to advise them of the type of questions to be asked (i
of persons who voluntarily submit information relative to "flying discs." i
Although no active investigation will be conducted by the Bureau, it is w
believed that the c aptioned matter is of sufficient importance to the h
internal security-of the country that our field offices should secure as
much information as possible from comgainants in order to assist the
Department /of ‘the AimyFarce. / 5
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64 ’ . -
Wi’ce Memorandum + vNiTED sTATES GOVERNMENT
TO ° : DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: March 22, 1949
FROM : gAC, SAN ANTONIO
SUBJECT: pROTECTION OF VITAL INSTALLATIONS
BUREAU FILE 65-58300 OV7
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Re San Antonio letter to the Diréctor dateeranuam' 31, 1949, which outlined
discussion had at recent weckly Intelligence Conferences of G-2, ONI, OSI and
FBI in the Fourth .my Area concerning "Unidentified Aircraft" or "Unidentified
Areial Phenomena" etherwise knowin as "flying discs", "Flying saucers" and '"balls
of fire", It is repeated that this matter is considered secret by Intelligence
Officers of both the Amy and the Air Force.
G-2, 4th Amy, has now advised that the above matter is now termed "Unconven-
tionel Aircraft" and investigations concerning such matters have been given
the name "Project Grudge",.
G-2, 4th Amy, advised on February 16, 1949, a conference was held at Los
Ailamos, New llexico, to consider the so-called "Green fire ball phenomena'
which began about December 5, 1948. It was brought out this question has been )
classified "secret" and that investigation is now the primary responsibility
of the U.S. Air Force, lir liateriel Commend, T-2.
Dr. LINCOLN LA P4Z of the University of New Mexico, discussed one siting which \
he himself had made which was temed the "Starvation peak incident" and des-
cribed the following characteristics which indicated that the phenomenon
could not be classified as a normal meteprite fall,
1. There was an initial bright light (no period of intensity increase)
and constant intensity during the duration of the phenomenon.
2. Yellow green color about 5200 Angstroms. =
3., BEssentially horizontal path. ¢ -
L. Trajectory traversed at constant angular velocity.
5. Duration about twio seconds.
6. .1'!0 accompanying noise.
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DIRECTOR, FBI March 22, 1949
It was brought out that since December 5, 1948 there have been more than
ten incidents analagous to the "green fireball" above described and some
tirenty others with miner deviations from the above, It is also pointed out
thet the only sitings which had occurred seemed to have been confined to the
Los Alamos, Las Vegas, and ‘jest Texas triangle,
G-2 also advised thet as of November 1, 1948, information had been reeeived
from higher Military authorities that the Air Force had advised that such
gitings occur periodically and that another period of sitings was then
imminent, Further, on February 1k, 1949, higher Military authorities advised
that it was believed that ultimately it would be found that the phenomena
in question have a2 natural cxplanation.
It is further noted thot ebout 7:30 p.m., liarch 6, 1949, vwhat was at first
thought to be a flarc was seen approximately onc~half mile north of Killeen
Basc in the area of the Vitel Installation at Camp Hood, Texas, and a second
flore was noticed at 1:45 e.m., Harch 7, 1949, epproximetcly thrce miles from
Killeen Basc. It has since been concluded thot the flares scen near Killcen
arc probzbly similar to the phenomena previously noted in the Los Alamos,
Sandia Basc Area although these are the first sitings of such phenomena near
Cemp Hood,
There appears to be rcason to beclieve that the above-mentioned phenomena may
be connceted with scerct experiments being conducted by some U.S. Government
Agency as it is belicved that the United Statcs is farther advanced in guided
missile development than any foreign povier.
Although the primery rcesponsibility for investigeting such matters is now
with the U.S. 4sF. Air Metericl Command, G-2, 4th Army is.still intcrested
in being adviscd of any further sitings of such phcnomena which might be
observed.
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Form No. 1 Ll
THIS CASE ORIGINATED AT H"JUSTON Fl . 10
REPORT MADE AT DATE WHEN MADE PERIOD FOR ] REPORT MADE BY
WHICH MADE
LOS ANGELES 3/30/i8 12/2&29;1/7/8{{_ W NATHAN PROVINSE DPZ
TITLE | CHARACTER OF CASE
FLYING DISCS; f
LONNIE EDVARD NOACK, complainant;
Houston, Texas, December 27, 1948 | INTERNAL SECURITY M
SYNOPSIS OF FACTS:
Object described by complainant as possible flying dise
determined te be a model tow target or kite which had
been abandoned after unsuccessful tests. Portions of
target positively identified by HENRY T. RICE, LeA.
nanufacturer and erstwhile financial backer as being
part of the model target or kite.
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REFERENCE s
Teletype from Houston to Director dated 17/28/L8.
Teletype from Los Angeles to Director dated 12/28/L8.
Teletype from Los Angeles to Director dated 12/29/L8.
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DETAILSs
This investigation is predicated upon the receipt of referenced
teletype from the Houston Office advising that LONNIE EDARD NOACK had located
an object in the desert near Helendale, California, resembling a flying disc.
This object, described as a flying dise, had been located by NOACK, R. C.
PERSON and ir. and Mrse NATHAN SWITH of South Pasadena, California, approxi-
mately one hundred and fifty miles riortheast of Pasadena or about twenty
miles from Lone Pine, California.
Special Agent BIWARD OLSER determined that k. C. PERSON, Vaseco
Manufacturing Company, was traveling in Arizona and not available for interview.
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‘\@//' Federal Burean of Investination
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IN REPLY, PLEASE REFER TO Series l9l¥9 d" 77
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MEMO FOR MR. HOOVER CALLAHAN HINCE NANNA
TOLSON CALLAN JONES, M. A. NAUGHTEN
CLEGG CARLSON KEAY NEASE
CONNELLEY CARTWRIGHT LAUGHLIN PARSONS
GLAVIN CONRAD LEONARD PENNINGTON
HARBO DOWNING LONG RENNEBERGER
LADD EDWARDS, H. L. McCABE, E. J. ROGERS
NICHOLS EGAN McCABE, N. H. SIZ0O
ROSEN FEENEY McGUIRE TAMM, Q.
TRACY FLETCHER, H. B. McINTIRE WAIKART
BAUMGARDNER GURNEA MOBLEY WALL
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FVo s Bl v ELRA FLYING DISCS
Your attention is directed to Bureau Bulletin #57, Series 1947, dated
October 1, 1947, relating to the discontinuance of investigation by this Bureau in
matters concerning flying discs.
For your confidential information, a reliable and confidential source >
has advised the Bureeu that flying discs are believed to be man-made missiles rather f
than natural phenomenon. It has also been determined that for approximately the
past four years the USSR has been engaged in experimentation on an unknown type
of flying disc.
The Department of the Air Force has furnished to the Bureau the attached :
memorandum classified "restricted" dated February 15, 1949, entitled "Unconventional |
Adrcraft." This memorandum is being furnished to you in order that all agents &
assigned to your office can be informed of the type of information desired by the
Air Force in this matter.
As set forth in Bureau Bulletin #57, referred to above, no investigation
should be conducted by your office relative to flying discs, however, the attached
memorandum should be referred to in securing data from persons who desire to
voluntarily furnish information to your office relating to flying discs.
Very truly yours,
John Edgar Hoover
Director
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Enclosure NOT RECORDED
150 APR 4 1949
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FLYING DISCS. INFORMATION RECEIVED AT LOGAN, UTAH ELEVEN AM TODAY
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THAT AT NINE AM A GUARD AT THE ARMY GENERAL SUPPLY DEPOT, OGDEN, UTAH,
OBSERVED WHAT APPEARED TO BE AN EXPLOSION IN THE AIR ACCOMPANIED BY
A FLASH OF LIGHT FOLLOWED BY THE FALLING OF SILVER COLORED OBJECT.
THIS WAS SEEN AT HIGH ALTITUDE WEST OF OGDEN NEAR THE TOWN OF TAYLOR,
UTAH. ABOUT THE SAME TIME LT. RON HATFIELD OF LOGAN, UTAH PD SAW TWO
PUFFS OF SMOKE HIGH IN THE AIR WEST OF LOGAN FOLLOWED BY FALLING OF
SILVER COLORED OBJECT. ALSO AT ABOUT SAME TIME UTAH HIGHWAY PATROLMAN
L. No JEPPSON AT MANTUA, UTAH, SAW A SILVER COLORED OBJECT HIGH Ul
APPROACHING THE MOUNTAINS AT SARDINE CANYON BETWEEN LOGAN AND BRIGHAM
CITY, UTAH AND AS OBJECT NEARED THE MOUNTAIN IT APPEARED 40 EXPLODE IN A
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LOGAN, HAVE REPORTED TO SO, LOGAN, SEEING WHAT APPEAING®, TO BE TWO AERIAL
EXPLOSIONS FOLLOWED BY FALLING OBJECT WEST OF TRENTON AT ABOUT NINE
TWENTY AM TODAY. ABOVE INFORMATION IMMEDIATELY FURNISHED TO 0SI,
HILL FIELD, UTAH.' ANY FURTHER PERTINENT DEVELOPMENTS WILL BE FURNISHED
BUREAU FOR INFORMATION, OSI HILL FIELD HAS JUST NOW ADVISED ABOVE
PHENOMENA PROBABLY CAUSED BY TWO B TWENTYNINES FROM WENDOVER FIELD
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TOs Legal Attache
Mexico City, D.F.
FROM: Director, FBI
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
Reference is made to your letter dated April 5, 1949 captioned as above
in which you request.a copy of the Air Force memorandum mentioned in SAC Letter
#38, Series 1949 dated March 25, 1949.
In response thereto there is enclosed herewith the pamphlet captioned,
"nconventional Aircraft™® issued by the Department of the Air Force under date of
w. oo €0rUAry 155 1949 o which refersnce was made in the above-mentioned SAC Letter.
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TO : DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: 4=22-49
/ FROM %’SAC, LITTLE ROCK
SUBJECT: UNKNOWN SALD;JECTS;
WADE HJ ISON - INFORMANT
O FLYING DISCS
“~FORT SMITH, ARKANSAS (4-16-49)
WADE H, HARRISON, residence address Route 1, Bax 293,
Fort Smith, “rkansas, is employed as a Special Delivery messenger by
the Fort Smith Post Office Department,
HARRISON stated that at 5:25 p.m., Saturday, April 16, 1949,
while delivering special delivery mail in Fort Smith, he stopped his
automobile at a signal light located at the intersection of North
Eleventh Street and Grand Avenue, He glanced up at thestop light and
observed a brilliant object moving in a southeastern direction., He
presumed tleobject was approximately 2 miles high, He got out of his
automobile and pointed up with the suggestion that other automobile
drivers, stopped for the signal light, could see the object. He does
not know who any of the other people are or what they saw, He was
obliged to move on after the light changed and the drivers began honking
their horns. He watched the object until it was obscured by the line
of trees in that section, He estimated he watched it travel some
3 or 4 miles before he lost sight of it, He stated the weather was
clear, visibility was good, and there were no clouds near the object,
The object made no noise perceptible to HARRISON. However, he commented
that he was stopped at an intersection where the traffic was heavy and
there was considerable noise, He first thought possibly he had seen
some type of a reflector on an airplane, but could not locate or hear
a plane anywhere, \
HARRISON drove to the 1400 Block of North "C" Street, where
he observed an Army officer, wearing the insignia of a major or lieutenant
colonel, standing back of the officer's automobile, He stopped and
asked the officer if he had observed the flying object. The officer,
name unknown to the informant, answered negatively and then remarked,
"I am glad other people are also reporting seeing flying objects."
The officer then related that the day previous, Friday, April 15, 1949,
while the officer was traveling out of Oklahoma City toward Fort Smith,
his wife observed a flying object in the sky very similar to that
described by HARRISON. The officer stated he saw the object too, but
furnished no more information.
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LET TO DIRECTOR 4=22-49
FLYING DISCS
HARRISON described the object as appearing some 3 or 4
inches in diameter from the distance he saw it. It was very bright
and reflected a light in a manner similar to a mirror. He reported the
incident to the local press at Fort Smith and inquired if anyone had
made a similar report. He received a negative reply, In this connection,
please find attached an article from the front page of the Southwest-Times
Record newspaper published at Fort Smith, Arkansas, Sunday, April 17,
1949.
The interview with HARRISON developed he is 52 years of age.
He has had considerable college training and attended the seminary at
Westminister, Maryland 2% years. He stated that his eyesight is very
good for a man of his age and that he has worn reading glasses only
for the past few years. He was positive he had observed the object
as related above. He was unable of course to state just what the object
was or furnish any additional information concerning it, No information
was available at Fort Smith indicating the object had fallen in that
section or that it was observed by others. The Little Rock Office is
making no further inquiries concerning the subject matter.
The offices of OSI and MID have been notified of the informa-
tion set out above,
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SOUTHWEST - TIMES RECORD
Ft. Smith, Arkansas
April 17, 1949
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Wadetfiarrison, Fort Smith post office employe, reported Sat-|
urday Pre-fad-observed what he believed was a “flying disc.” |
Harrison saw what he believed was a “flying disc” as he was
driving east on Grand avenue at Eleventh street. He said the object
was small and was moving southeastward at a rapid rate of speed.
He said the object resembled a tiny mirror. A
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|urday.
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Date: May 2, 1949
Tos Director of Special Investigatioms (I.G.)
Department of the Air Force
The Pentagon
Washington 25, D, C.
} From: John Edgar Hoover, Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
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Ret FLYING DISC3
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A reliable and confidential source has recently
advised this Bureau that during the first part of April,
1949, ¥Wr. C. A, Atkins, 4312 Los Feliz, Hollywood 27,
California, had informed him that three employess of the
Department of Hecreation in Parks in the city of Los Angeles,
California, had noticed objects in the sky which appeared to
be flying discs.
The above information is being furnished to you for
whatever action you desire and no investigation is being con-
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Director -« FBI
FLYING DISKS
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Reference is made to your letter dated April 4, 1949, captioned
‘*Protection of Vital Installations.”' You are instructed in the future to
a\\‘eport information relating to flying disks under the above caption,
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In regard to your request for information that would substantiate or
discredit the statements made by Walter Winchell on his broadcast of
April 3, 1949, your attention is directed to SAC Letter No. 38 dated March 25,
1949, captioned ‘'‘Flying Disks.'’
For your strictly confidential information, the data contained in
SAC Letter No. 38 was obtained in confidence from a colonel in the United
States Air Materiel Command, who obtained his information from persons
actively engaged in the investigation of this subject.
No interview with Walter Winchell will be made by the Bureau con-
cerning the source of his statements referred to in your referenced letter.
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STANGARD FORM NO. 64 i . ‘
Offi ce Memorandum - vNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO e Director, FBI DATE: April 4, 1949
FroM : (L) sAc, san Antonio AIR MAIL
SPECIAL DELIVERY
SUBJECT: PROTECTION OF VITAL INSTALLATIONS
(Bureau file 65-48300)
Reference is made to San Antonio letter to the Bureau dated March
22, 1949 which submitted information related by military authorities concerning
A unconventional aircraft.
f“ The Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, G-2, 4th Army, has advised
5 ‘%t\that at 11:50 P.M. March 31, 1949 a lighted object about the size of a basketball,
= 'j’»«\Wreddish white in color, followed by a fire trail, was observed southwest of
343 ‘xwxilleen Base, adjacent to Camp Hood, Texas. The observation was mede by lst
= ‘Q?}\Lt. FREDERICK W, DAVIS, who was in charge of a platoon, Company C, 12th Armored
N;nf‘antry Battalion, which is assigned as a part of an alert force (called force
EYs Abel) from Camp Hood, whose function is to protect the installation at Killeen
= §\) Lt. DAVIS advised that the object was at an altitm
J 6,000 ft., was traveling parallel to the ground and passed directly over him at
*15i= a rapid rate of speed. It was in view 10 to 15 seconds and suddenly disappeared
<=8 high in the sky without having descended. No sound or odor was detected. The \
night was clear and visibility good. The object passed almost directly over the X
air strip at Killeen Base. ’
When Lt. DAVIS attempted to advise his headquarters by telephone
immediately after the sighting, he heard static or electrical interference on L
the telephone line which he stated might be possible radio interference. . =
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G-2 has advised that other lights of unknown origin were observed on e
March 6, 7, 8 and 17, 1949, by military personnel of the alert force stationed u.
approximately 1000 yards east of the fences which surround Killeen Base. S
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The object sighted on March 31, 1949 was reported as being of a \
different nature from the lights seen earlier in the month. F
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It is noted that lr. L.r'xIJi‘EN;!.C}’ELL, on his Sundajy evening broadcast, S
April 3, 1949, stated that "flying disds" seen in this counyry definitely =
emanated from Russiae 5 zZ
On April 4, 1949, G=2, 4th Army, contacted '\«‘5f‘fice, inquiring as
to whether we had any information that would substaz ¥ or discredit the state-
ments made by WALTER WINCHELL, &
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SA-100=-7545
In view of the interest and concern of 4th Army military authorities
who have the duty of protecting the vital installations at Los Alamos, N. M.,
Sandia Base, N. M. in the El Paso Division, and the Camp Hood area in the San
Antonio Division, it is suggested that the Bureau may desire to arrange to have
Mr. WINCHELL interviewed concerning the source of his information that "flying
discs" emanate from Russia.
It would be appreciated if the Bureau can supply any information that
can be transmitted to military authorities which would ck rify this matter.
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141 Claire Drive, Southeast
Atlanta, Georgia
H'AB Dear Mr. Davis:
Your letter of April 27, 1949, has been received,
and I want to thank you for sending me the newspaper
~ clipping which you enclosed together with your observations
concerning the designs you submitted to the federal
government in 1942, Although I would like to be of service,
checks of the type you desire are not within the scope of
this Bureau's activities. It was very thoughtful of you to
contact me in that regard,
Sincerely yours,
John Edgar Hoover
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DAYTON, Ohio, April 27.—The
only airman who ever got near a
fl"i saucer crashed and died be-
fore he could describe it, the Day~
ton Journal-Herald said today.
The newspaper printed a lengthy
dispatch on the mysterious flying
discs, based, it said, on hitherto un-,
Published reports assembled at the
Wfl(&t‘-Patterson Air Force base,
The Air Force investigation has
proved that the flying saucers “are
not a joke.” Neither “are they a
cause for alarm to the popula-
UOn.': the newspaper said,
The closest any airman came to
the mystery discs was on Jan, 7,
1948, when one was sighted over
Fort Knox, Ky., the dispatch said.
Four fighter planes were sent aloft
to intercept ° it, but only Capt.
Thomas F. Mantell was able to get
close,
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* |lic and of tremendous size, It's go-| «
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360 miles an hour. I'm going up
after it. At 20,000 feet, if I'm noj
closer, I'll abandon chase.” . N
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Base lists 240 domestic and 30 for- Poscible that they were. Later the|cons;
eign accounts of Alying discs as Alr Force announced it was not form
baving been investigated, Of these, making any further comments on|tg a
30 per cent seem to have been the discs, proa
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8 ”l &’ cent more are perhaps ex- on which its “story is based said|the
, - |Plainable conventionally—leaving 40 “evaluation teams” stated: far
1[per cent unexplained. ‘We can’t prove or disprove the
1|, The Air Force recently gaid existence of some of the remaining| »
there was N0 evidence that the unidentified objects as real aircraft |y
‘|dises were 'zwid.d missiles fired|of unconventional design. Iv
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To: Director of Special Investigations, (I. G.)
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The Pentagon
washington 25, D. C.
From: John Hdgar Hoover - Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Subject: INFORMATION CONCHRNING FLYING SAUCERS
MRS, FRANRNGARDNER - INFORMANT
inclosed is a photostatic copy of a letter dated April 29, 1949,
received by this Bureau from Mrs. Frank Gardner concerning flying saucers.
The correspondent has been advised that a copy of her letter has
been forwarded to the United States Air Force.
This letter is being forwarded to you for any action you may
deem advisable.
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SranoaRo Foru o 64 ’ ‘
Qfl‘ice Memorandum - vN1TED STATES GOVERNMENT
10 : Director, FBI DATE: May 13, 1949
/ZBOM : BAC, Los Angeles
SUBJECT: WFLYING DISK" REPORT
(*INFORMATION CONCERNING
On May 5, 1949 Mr, MEL HODELL, a reporter for the Sun-Star
newspaper, Merced, California, advised Special Agent MARLIN W. JOHNSON,
that his paper had been contacted by Lt. Col. STANLEY JACOBS, Intelligence
Officer, Castle Air Force Base, Merced, California, relative to any
reports that the newspaper might have received concerning "flying disks"
in the Merced vicinity. A
Mr. HODELL stated a clese friend of his, one WILLIAM }WOTT,
12-A langdon Villa, Merced, had advised him that he had obsefved a
strange object, and as he is in the Air Corps Reserve, he reported same
to the Intelligence Officer at Castle Field.
On the same date Mr. GEORGE BREMER, Detachment Commander, Office
of Special Investigations, Castle Air Force Base, Merced, California, advised
SA MARLIN W. JOHNSON that he had heard that an individual had reported
seeing a "flying disk" to the Intelligence Office at the Base but that
the Intelligence Officer had not furnished the information to him. Mr.
BREMER later on the same date contacted SA JOHNSON and exhibited a letter
written by STANLEY F. JACOBS, Lt. Col., USAF, Adjutant (Intelligence
Officer) to Commanding General, Air Material Command, Wright-Patterson
AFB, Wright Field, Ohio. This letter contained a statement given by
Mr. WILLIAM H. PARROTT which read as followss "I had occasion to step
from my home, located approximately one mile west of the town of Merced,
on the night of April 4, 1949, at approximately 2220. My attention was
diverted to a clicking noise of considerable intensity. I stopped on the
gidewalk about 20 feet from the front steps and recognized the source of
this clicking to be in the sky in an area about 40 degrees from the surface
of the earth in an easterly direction. The sky cendition was 20000 thin
breken with 12 miles visibility and surface winds were reported as north
nine M.P.H. at Castle Air Force weather station. My home is approximately
seven miles south of Castle Air Force Base and in an area somewhat sheltered
from surface winds,and no appreciable surface wind was apparent at the
time the aural observation was made. After about ten seconds of looking
into the area described previously as being the source of this sound, an
object was observed blanking out stars in describing a flight path in a
west or northwesterly direction. Only one object was apparent, its shape
can be described as only a solid mass. Its size can be estimated as four
or five feet in diameter in keeping with an estimated altitude of con-
siderably less than 1000 (ene theusand) feet. Color was shown by the
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dull surfacted, light colored metal. The only ground lights of in-
tensity were a row of street lights behind me one half block which leads
me to believe the under surface of this object to be curved in shape.
"This object when first sighted, was moving very slowly in a west
or northwesterly direction. I would estimate that I had it in my range
of vision for 35 seconds, after having heard it about ten seconds before
locating it. It passed on beyond the house and maneuvered through an
arc of turn to the left of about ninety degrees. The clicking sound was
continuous throughout this turn, however, it became louder as it returned
on its new heading of south or southwest. On its return the clicking
sound became louder, but I was unable to see it at this time. The click-
ing stopped when it was at its greatest intensity and appeared to come
from a position directly over head. I was unable to see the object after
the sound stopped.
"This clicking sound, retained the same pitch and speed through-
out the entire course observed, but intensity varied. There was not
whistle or roar, but only the clicking noise which might be compared to
beaters of a home mixer that were not properly meshed. No lights or
flame were observed during the entire course with exception of the
previous described reflections twice. No exhaust trail was distinguish-
able.
"y dog was with me and directed her attention in the general
direction of this object's flight throughout its course. Bhe had been
i romping with me on coming out of the house but without spoken word
stopped and directed her attention on to the previously described area.
The clicking sound might net have been unusual to the dog, but there is
a possibility of sounds on wave lengths discernable only to the dog,
being emitted."
It is to be noted that Mr. PARROIT is a member of the Active
USAF Reserve with rank of Major. He attained rating of pilot in August
1941 and has approximately 2200 hours flying time. During his active
duty period in WW2 he stated that he had considerable night flying
experience in connection with his military assigmment. The Intelligence
Officer in the above mentioned letter made the follewing statement, "An
attempt to locate other witnesses in the area or through the local news—
paper proved unsuccessful',
Mr. BREMER advised that he is planning to clear with his head-\
quarters office and will probably conduct an investigation.
The above is being furnished for the information of the Bureau.
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STANDARD FORM NO, 64 . ’
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Z-T0 : MR FLETE‘H& ¥ DATE: May 26, 1949 /,
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SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS i Mero——
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BACKGROUND: i —
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Mr. PennTngton_
Walter Winchell forwarded e the Director a Western Union Teios Rovam—
telegram he had received from Roberp(Ripley which stated that he, Ripley, E::"'figr‘égr———
had the only authentic Japanese f)ying saucer ever recovered in this e
countrys. Mr. Winchell noted on the telegram, “To J. Edgar Hoover - True?"
DETAILS:
This matter was discussed by Special Agent Reynolds with the Intelligence
Division of the Army, who advised that they had no information concerning any
Japanese flying saucer ever having been recovered in the United States.
This matter was discussed with Colonel William E. Carpenter, OSI~USAF,
who advised on April 27, 1949 that he had interested himself in the flying saucers
and related subjects and that in so far as could be determined by him through his
sources in the Air Force, which are excellent, there is no authentic information
available concerning the phenomenon of the flying saucers. He advised he would check
with the authorities at Wright Field to determine if any information is available ¢
concerning the recovery of a Japanese flying saucer.
Colonel Carpenter has now advised that there is no information available
in any arm of the Air Force to the effect that any flying saucers of any kind have
§been recovered in the United States. Colonel Carpenter stated delay had been
encountered in determining this fact inasmuch as inquiries had been directed through
individuals known to him and trusted by him and not through the usual channels
from which he possibly would receive a stock answer,
The details of this case were not discussed by either Special AgentsReynolds
or Sanders with the Army or Air Force and they are not aware of the telegram sent
by Mr. Ripley to Mr. Winchell,
RECOMMENDATION:
The foregoing is for your information and any disposition being desirable.
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ear Mrs. Gardner:
I wish to acknowledge your letter dated April 29, 1949, and %o
express my appreciation for your thoughtfulness in writing to me.
In view of the contents of your letter, I have taken the liberty
of sending a copy to the United States Air Force.
In the future, if you have information which may be of interest
to this Sureau, you mey find it more convenient to communicate with Mr. R. B.
Hood, 2eial Agent in Charge of our Los Angeles Office, 900 Security Building,
0s Angeles 13, California.
iincerely yours,
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John Edgar Hoover
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Ctl Los Angeles with cco‘ies of incoming.
The correspondent communicated with the Bureau on one previous occasion
enclosing a clipping from a Spanish langusge newspaper in Texas. She was apparent-
ly dissatisfied with the manner in which the Latin Americans were being treated
in Texas. A cordial letter of acknowledgement was sent to her. (100-33339)
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UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE p Mr. Ladd
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April 25, 1949 / Alr. Rosen_______
3 Mr. Tracy,
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{790 Gl Mr. Ho B. Fletcher)// DATE: May 23, 1949 :
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Mr, Harbo_______
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Mr. Quim
On the afternocon of May 20, 19L9, Miss Kaye Lochrie, 4900 N. ET’%‘S&E
Harding Avenue, Chicago 25, Illinois, was referred to my office from the Miss Gan
Director's Officee. &
Miss Lochrie stated she was going to be in Washington for a
few days that she was staying at the Ambassador Hotel. She stated
that RoyfPalmer, Managing Editor of the(Jaff Davis Publishing Company in
Chicagé{ had some information regarding flying discs. Miss Lochrie said
that Palmer's theory was to the effect that when people died their souls
entered a space on this earth which is, of course, invisible to human
eyes. He said that in this soul world there are good and bad people and
that they have become involved in a war. According to Miss Lochrie, Palmer's
theory is that the flying discs which have been seen are the explosives be-
ing used in the warfare between the good and bad souls.
Miss Lochrie stated that the real purpose of her visit to the
Bureau was to get her own name cleared, She said that the FBI has been con-
ducting investigation regarding her and that she wanted to know the results
of the investigation. I asked her what kind of an investigation the FBI had
been making regarding her and she stated she was under suspicion of espionage
activitiess I informed her that I could not furnish her with any information
which is contained in the Bureau's files inasmuch as our files have been
designated as confidential by the Attorney General.
Miss Lochrie accepted this explanation and stated regarding her
present activities that she had been in the Wacs as a private and had re-
ceived an honorable discharge in 1945, She said at the present time she is
working as a model in Chicago.
She impressed me as being somewhat mentally unbalanced.
. A check of the files failed to reveal that we have conducted any
investigation relative to this individual,. Ry
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Under attached cover you will find _,/ mple Of our item,
hould yvou do no more than teke our™"LYIN' SAUCER out, care- ~
fully read the instructions, and fly it; I will have acecom-
plished 2 portion of mvy expectations,
For the past few weeks I have listened with more than an in-
different attitude, to your various Sunday evening broadcasts
and comments concerning Flying Saucers. 'rom the start, much
as many another individual who has tried to get ahead by his
own initiative, I have visialized what the right type of
publicity wonuld do for my interests.
o state my actions in any other manner, would belittle your
Your corment this evening, concerning the Gyroscopiec Theories,
sparkplucced my sctions,
long with the phases of merchandising mentioned in the att-
ached articles, I should like to mention that one troop of
Boy Seouts in Ios Angeles are purchasing and enthusiastic-
ally inelude them e 8 maior portion of their recreation
program,
y these facts, it is apperent that our "LYIN' is
worthy of every effort we sre sble to summons in meking it
anot}l merican pastime of Yo-Yo proportions
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FLYIN-SAUCER \=
GREAT FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY! e //.
FLYIN-SAUCER performs in an amazing way as you g
develop your skill in flying it. A novel way to — X A
play catch. You will think of many games
to play. Adaptable to almost any game. "
HOW TO FLY
Launch your FLYIN-SAUCER straight ahead - \ /
with a snap of your wrist making it spin as fast :
as possible. DON'T THROW TOO HARD. . .. It's
the spinning that gives it lift. Begin by flying about ’
10 feet. When windy, throw across the wind. You
will quickly learn how to bank to the left or right. {
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PRECISELY ENGINEERED - AERODYNAMICALLY CORRECT
MADE TOUGH TO RESIST ROUGH HANDLING
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FLYIN' SAUCERS have flight characteristics very similar to airplanes. The SAUCER IS launched
in identically the same manner as sailing your hat onto a hook-=-by spinning and forward mo-
tion.
In order to fly In a straight line, the SAUCER must leave the hand in a level position. To
curve the SAUCER, it must leave the hand banked or tiited in direction of desired curve--for
example: for left curve--the left side of the SAUCER must be tilted down.
FOR BEST RESULTS — The spinning of the SAUCER is most important and most difficult to mas—
ter. Because the spin creates a gyroscopic action which control$ the attitude of the SAUCER
in flight, a smooth, fast spinning delivery should be developed Do not hold the SAUCER too
tight.
Analyze your mistakes and make corrections by tilting or banking SAUCER. The correction must
be applied to the SAUCER as it leaves the hand.
SAIL 'EM BACK AND FORTH - PLAY CATCH !
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Begin by flying your saucer about 10 feet. =
The distance you are able to fly it will
quickly increase with practice.
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/By releasing the SAUCER -
x4 in a tilted manner, you st 3
5 can make it turn to the ~ T ”y";{‘;g‘.':f"gr"ggmafig
left or right, Bank It turns, you'\? be able to
1 make your SAUCER return to you
the way you want it to / b{ safling it Tt the brebze
turn. It is advisable to at a s?arp angle.fiThe harder a
p = wind blows, the flatter an an-
learn to fly straightbe gle you cah fly it to make it
fore starting to make return. Spin SAUCER as much as
turns. 1.__‘_ possible.
MAKE EM SKIP ! =4 4
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Right-handers launch SAUCER so that left side strikes i
hard surface. Right side for left-handers. <
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HARD SURFA -
THE GAME OF HECKLE
THE GAME OF HECKLE provides a means of utilizing the unique manner in which the FLYIN!
SAUCER can be guided. Rules and regulations are provided, forming the basis for skill and
competition
PLAYERS == Four —— with two on each team.
OBJECT = To fly SAUCER around HECKLERS into your partner's circle.
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ALL CIRCLES ARE 6 FEET IN DIAMETER . CENTER SPACE MAY VARY WITH ASILITY.
All players must remain in their circle until SAUCER is alrborne.
The game begins with the Flier (A) attempting to sail the SAUCER around the HECKLERS in the
circles (B) and (C) so that his partner in the Receiver's circle (D) can catch it.
Flier (A) must remain in his circle when serving the SAUCER.
HECKLER (B) must remain in his circle at all times while his team is defensive. He may at-
tempt to stop the flight of the SAUCER, or distract the Flier in any manner. Should he step
or fall out of his circle, his team forfeits | point and the offensive team retains serve.
HECKLER (C) remains in his circle until SAUCER is alrborne. He may then leave his circle to
heckle the Receiver (D) in any manner so long as he doesn't interfere with flight of SAUCER
or touch the Receiver, or step into the Receiver's circle. Hecklers forfeit 2 points for
each infraction.
Receiver (D) attempts to catch the SAUCER in his circle. Should he do so, then his team re-
ceives 2 points. Should it be necessary for the Receiver to leave his circle to catch the
SAUCER, then his team scores but | point. Should he drop or miss the SAUCER, no points are
scored, and the teams change positions. (A) changes with (B) and (C) changes with (D).
(C) Is now the Flier, and (B) the Receiver. HECKLER (D) must remain in his circle, and the
HECKLER (A) becomes the roving HECKLER.
Teams change positions when the Receiver fails to catch the SAUCER.
In the event that no Referee is available, disputes will be settied by mutual agreement, or
the flip of a coin.
First team to score 25 points wins the game. KEEP 'EM FLYIN'
This is a PIPCO PRODUCT F San Luis Obispo, Calif.
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Flying § Come from Southern California
Do you HAVE spots before your eyes? Do vari-colored An in*_iesting part of the story is that producing the
discs flutter and sail in the air in front of you? Do you acetate “Flyin" Saucer” is only part of the story. It is a
see flying saucers in the skies? product with a wide market (how many yo-yos were sold
If you do, don’t call the doctor nor jump on the wagon. in the US last jear, do you suppose?); but it must be
And don’t worry. Other persons are seeing flying saucers demonstrated to be sold. Everyone who sees a Flyin’
too—seeing them fly through the air—and seeing them Saucer in action is enthusiastic. Anyone who sees one
on the sales counters of the stores. You can even pick lying on a sales counter is likely to pass by.
them up-and feel them, and, preferably, buy them to play That presents a merchandising problem that has the
with. sales staff of Southern California Plastic hard at work,
It all started many years ago—long before the recent thinking up ways and means for demonstrations, action
flurry of flying saucers—when a little boy named Freddie publicity, visual promotional stunts. With a record of
used to play with his mother’s pie tins. If he threw them steady-selling staple consumer items now on the market,
with just the right twist of the wrist, they spun and turned Southern California has no intention of letting the Flyin’
in fascinating curves. Saucers sit on the sales counters. Carefully-controlled
Freddie grew up into a man called Fred Morrison, who distribution, related to on-the-spot demonstrations or pro-
always remembered what fun he had had playing with the motional campaigns, has been the rule so far. National
pie tins. As a grown-up, he applied his knowledge of markets will not be tackled until all the promotional kinks
aerodynamics to the problem of developing a disc which have been unraveled.
could be thrown and tossed and its flight controlled by
the thrower. | 1 |
He evolved a metal model that sailed through the air |
in a most satisfactory manner. The curved disc was 9 in.
in diameter and a scant 2 in. deep, with radiating arc-
shapped fins and a heavy outside rim. A snap of the wrist 8
when throwing gives a centrifugal motion to the disc
which in turn gives. guidance in flight. The radial fins . 3
create a vacuum on top of the whirling disc, and stability | >
from beneath is provided by the heavy rim. o i
The metal model sailed through the air beautifully— : 'Vlm"’: ” g ;
but also, being metal, it sailed through windows and b s % .
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hedges and other obstacles, somewhat after the manner of " v
a miniature cyclone. A material other than metal seemed $ "
a wise idea if the disc—or flying saucer—were to become { ‘44 ) .
a commercial product. | e ¢ “ 5 e A
A lightweight, slightly flexible plastics looked like the 7 v L. i" i
answer, a.md Mo}mson brought his mgtal model to Soull?em A ,!M g ~ s
California Plastic Co., Glendale, Calif., to see what might f,?/, - 3
be done in plastics. Stanley J. Gray and Edward L. Ken- . ] ol
nedy, president and secretary of the firm, took the metal g e v SRR e N
disc out on the lawn to “demonstrate” its possibilities 2 28 T - ]
and were soon breathlessly convinced that a great deal K 5 — SO B
of fun could be had by young and old alike. Pfi,, i w o
A plastics model of the disc was carved from a solid o e gl
block of material, and then a mold made in the shop of - ‘: l."'_;';.»‘-""‘. - %
Southclrn C:llifornia. Engraving of the mold was done ;‘;;a" P A ” Garl]
by United Engravers, Los Angeles. - ’;‘..f?‘-,,z% fi?‘ggy‘« mvflt’: %
Then came the problem of the right material. A search R o i v« ] e
was made throughout the range of thermoplastic molding e " ?',lmf""‘ 5= ;.‘_{Y b y! .,;‘."“ .
compounds to find the proper material that combined AN ML L 34,'-:‘{' REE e TS
flexibility, impact strength, and stability while in motion. o e AR e VIR [ S
2 (The discs achieve considerable speed—and strain—when i U PR R e T
in flight.) Cellulose acetate provided the best combination RNV RE o AU AR " ~ LA g5
of properties to do the job. Acetate discs will not break K 7E A ;;‘:':(:".‘;‘.,“3',‘1 iy P ol 2
glass windows, nor shatter when falling from a great "'}L':‘,"a‘;!_'“‘}': AR '.'.'"‘ : X
height, nor scar the finish on automobiles, nor injure the A S AT L o e MBI ) oy et [ ek
That's a real Flyin' Saucer this young man has just thrown into 4bf”;f‘;fi’%‘@i}},;-’-@fil{.’-E".‘;‘. < i s E §
th> air—molded of tough and lightweight cellulose acetate by '-a:..-.';_".;;J,f_",_‘:ph_’ ‘s R : A |
Southern California Plastic Co., Glendale. Designed in accordance o e EAN ';.’_»‘f‘.fi X 2
with aerodynamic principles, the Flyin’ Saucer spins through the air i g TSR Y ) Al o =X .
with the greatest of ease. Note the radial fins on the disc in the Y AAA IR SN EU ? S PRRTS s WK
boy's left hand. Y2 R RN 8 Y R A, A TR )
Reprinted from PACIFIC PLASTICS, August 1948
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e ;”i P By WILLIAM KEY
i V, Vw{:“mé i . (‘t&% . §p“# What was that Thing that
L fo s ¢ |Atlanta Eastern Air Line pilots
e e o Lo o e in the spooky hours Saw
f T e e kel 1 (morning?
i R S 1Y A £ | 1s there some stratospheric Loch
fig‘fi il RN gié " |Ness fire-breathing monster on
p g 5 - 0 : }“;fi”:sg’, '3’%% the Milky Way run between At-
gl o % s § ¢ = & anta and New Orleans?
} i Conaa N @t | e nilots, Capt-C. S. Chiles,
e 'gfi‘;""‘j e ) *,fi‘}.«,&e of Atlanta, and Co-Pilot J. B.
v : L g Tt R IWhitted. of Hapeville, would m:.!
£ @ AN e : | ”j’i’* % Vj&’? . # to know. The Army Strategic Air |
£ 4 O e & e < lCommand would like to know. Big |
"l & e 'Q‘fé, :;f: |airplane manufacturers also are
ot - o0 S T |curious, but slightly dubious. |
«%‘% e their thrilling story upon artiv-|
B f‘(;;?g, i F ing at municipal airport here Sat-
b e S b |Boston run. Here is what they
l%fi?‘; s ,«@5, ¢ |saur they saw, near Montgomery:
A gigantic plane without wings,
EAL FLIERS I?ESCBIBE WINGLESS A_IRCRA.FT |black against the might sky,
! Copilot"John. Whitted and Capt. C. S. Chiles (right). |streaking through the heavens at
|5,000 feet altitude with a fiery
|comet's tail 25 to 50 feet in
|length. It had a 100-foot fuselage
about four times the circumfer-
ence of a B-29's, and two rows
of brilliantly lighted square
windows. Creepiest of all, it was
|a veritable me utchman of
'the Skies. Niry a living soul was
seen aboard! l
ATIANTA JOURNAL
SUNDAY, 7/25/48
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Ay At
(?onumuuht |
The pilots admitted they had|
goose pimples riding pick-a-back
on goose pimples. ‘What's more,
they said one of their 20 passen-
gers—C. L. McKelvie, of Colum-
bus, Ohio—was awake and saw
the same thing.
Reporters nailed Mr. McKelvie
at Kennett Square, Pa. How about
it, they asked him—had he seen
what the Atlanta pilots said he
saw?
Well, now, said Mr. McKelvie—
not exactly. He said he saw “no
form of ship” whatever. He saw 2
“continuous light speed past” his
window.
«But,” added Mr. McK. “I'm|
not very well versed in aeronlu-1
tics, and certainly I wasn't look-
ing for any Buck Rogers space
ship.”
Out at Santa Monica, Cal, the
famous Gen. George C. Kenney,
chief of the Strategic Air Com-
mand, was bearded in his den.
His eyes twinkled. No, he said,
cautiously, it wasn’t one of his
planes. The Army as yet hasn’t
got anything like the Thing seen
over Montgomery.
Not Boeing Plane
“] wish we did,” the 8“}‘::}
said wistfully. “1 sure would
liked to see that Thing.” #
So said William M. Allen, pres=
ident of the Boeing Aircraft Co.,
up at Seattle. (I'm pretty sure
it wasn’t one of our planes,” said
Mr. Allen, modestly.
Almost identical statements is-
sued by the Army Air Forces at
Washington and the United States
Weather Bureau at Montgomery
tended to throw some light on
this fantasy. Both sources sug-
gested that the Atlanta pilots had
flown past an air radar weather
observation balloon. Those things,
they explained, are 10 feet in
diameter and have square, tinfoil
boxes fastened to them. The boxes
reflect light and “give strange
illuslons"lrs they twist and turn.
Maxwell Field said they send 'em
up at six-hour intervals.
And Maxwell Field js at Mont-
gomery. S |
ATIANTA JOURNAL
SUNBAY, 7/25/48
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‘Flying Floor Lamp~
Again Sighted H |
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By CHARLES POU |she did see “a great ball of fire|
That “flying floor lamp” is at|With a great long purple tail onl
it again! ; it.” That was about 9:40 p. m.
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An _illuminated cantaloupe Bluish Streak of Light 4
.. HEMSCS Ak dity! | An attendant at the naval air
roligd over-ihe city: |station thought he was watchisg
{ And a newspaperman saw “‘great|a falling star, until it started
|balls of fire! “climbing and banked away from |
l What's more, {wo Richmond Va, |Atlanta. To him, it looked like a |
schoolteachers say they saw the bluish s"'?ak of light. i
|same “flame-spurting” sky mon- A"d, v;]ov\Bahf;ut f.h? n_e;\ .\.pafper-w
ster which was spotted by Eastern rxz:ustfia "Ch?:niec.]z-n}hfx(ll\lgmu: :::
‘Alr Lines pilots n‘em' Montgomery. telephone after a dozen calls about
“ Like Red Floor Lamp | weird goings-on in the Augusta
| “I saw Halley’'s comet—and it | skies.
lwas nothing like what I saw last| He looked Wimzjflfi |
‘n}gh;.}"‘defi]aredh_i\ldrs. w. R‘\'Dei’l\fv" He summoned his sta* R
o emphi ave,, I. V.| “Great balls cfilfire!
Breathlessly, Mrs. Delk continued: < 4 g
| “The front end of it looked like
a flying floor lamp—a fiery-red
floor lamp. Then it trailed off in
little square sections. {
“Oh, Halley's comet was nothing ‘
{like that.”
And Mrs. Delk was joined by at |
least 15 other Atlantians who saw |
a Thing which banked and rolled
|and breathed fire over the city
Monday night between 8 p. m
and 9:45 p. m. |
| In the downtown section,, Mr.
and Mrs. Richard P, Sellers were |
(minding their own business when |
|a “reddish-white ball of fire about
the size of a cantaloupe with a
tail on it” darted over buildings.
Mrs. A. C. MwbyToT Carey Park,
has never seen a purple cow but
ATIANTA JOURNAL, 7/27/48
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LIKE BIG FLOOR LAMP FLYING 'ALONG —
Everybody's Seeing ‘Things'
Whizzi h h Night Sk
By CHARLES POU . burst in mid-air. S ‘of a floor lamp, and it vi/as the
3 5. A flash of cherry red fire. |prettiest thing I ever saw. It came
w.l;wt:l:: f’}‘:g:g‘a;:nop?more e 6. A meteor. |and passed so quick—I guess it
Mrs. Noah Atkinson, of Brook- Mrs. Atkinson kept her Fly- must have been 500 miles an hour
haven, saw it. And wf\at did that|ing Floorlamp secret three weeks. |or faster.”
Thing look like? \But she knew she wasn’t seeing| And how about the two air-
“A great big floor lamp, all lit|things when she saw the Thing. |line pilots, C. S. Chiles and John
up. Oh, it was beautiful!” | She and her husband, who also|B. Whitted, of Atlanta?
And C. M. Bowles, an Exposi-|saw it, kept mum. The story| well, they took off foday,
tion Mills painter who lives near really sounded a little silly uk:‘m armed with a camera. And they
the Municipal airport, Sunday|the two air line pilots saw their hope to pring back a picture of
night saw a “huge, brilliantly Thing gamboling and fire-breath-|that Thing.
lighted object” streaking over At- Ismlt lgrflugh air-line skies early
ci aturday morning.
'fi':_'”sf,‘;f:s i},,’,?fsy Efiesg-‘f,’fl?g ff;'s‘ After that, she decided her tale BeOICh, Throng.s cr?n.
straight from Moscow. cold be told: # At ‘Silver Cylinder
Two. air line pilots first were| MY NUSHEAC aud © Were Sio| ASBURY PARK, N. J., July 26.
startled by the newest astronomx-]é‘{l%u"{; %ura:l;’n:tpgrgfia?::rnzgh; (P)—Boardwalk throngs b &his
“ll wsh*:"’;'” L Mor;tgome‘lzy o'clock we saw {his Thing, Our Fesort city craned their necks
L el_ryl i ?‘y. v ti em,fl; wa?ka front porch doesn’t have a screen,|Monday at a “silver cylinder”
b ot issRcra ,spu;mghAa{r’erl: at and we were sitting near the [they reported flying high over-
:vril:-i a]log:\‘;:rr(:gee'.c:u;lt)}y that [edge where we could see good. (bead:
Thing,was variously identified as:| “I saw it first. It was not high They described it as “way up
1. An aluminum covered bal-|uP—about 200 feet, I guess, but in the air,” and like a blimp “only
loon. it looked like it was right above |blunt at both ends.”
2. A ball of fire. the treetops. ‘Looka there’, I| Officials, recalling “flying sau-
Swethmsnusually bright light. (velled to my husband, and he|cers,” asked Fort Monmouth per-
4. A red and blue flame that|saW it too. sonnel to see if they could identify
—_— 1 “It' looked like the top part'it. —
ATLANTA JOURNAL, 7/26/48
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(
Q0PY COPY SOPY
1515 « 9th St,
Wichita Falls, Texas
Aug, 5, 1948
Publisgher,
Atlanta Journal,
Atlanta, Georgia.
Dear Sir:
On July 25, 1948, I mailed a letter enclosing .35 cents im coin
and an airmail self-addressed envelop to your circulation department, asking
for tear sheets of the Atlanta Journal containing the stories on a "strange"
or "mysterious" aircraft seen mear Montgomery, Alasbama, July 24, 1948, by two
pilots, Cap't C, S. Chiles and John B, Whitted, of the Eastern Air Lines.
These have not arrived. I asked for two copies each of the stories.
Enclosed is an additional .35 cents, and another stamped self-ad-
dressed envelop. Will you kindly see that your circulation department com-
plies with thie simple request?
I assure you that my interest in the above stories is prompted by
interest in the defense of our country, and you are hereby given my fullest
permission to turn this letter requesting the copies of the stories over to
the FBI, should you wish,
Thanking you very kindly, I am,
Sincerely,
/s/ Mrs. Madeline Gwynne Merchant
sl bt B Mrs, Madeline Gwynne Merchant
Federal Bureau of Investization
Atlanta, Georgia
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The incident was, I believe, an important one. And though I have
already made reports to Maj, Sidney Newburger of Los Alamos and to General
Handy, I would appreciate the fuller newspaper stories appearing in the
press there, Thanking you kindly, I am,
Sincerely,
/s/ Mrs, Madeline Gwynne Merchant
Mrs, Madeline Gwynne Merchant
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CoPY SopY COPY
1515 - 9th St,
Wichita Falls, Texas
Aug, 5, 1948
Agent-In-Charge,
Federal Burean of Investigation,
Atlanta, Georgia,
Dear Sir:
Enclosed is a carbon of a letter requesting tear sheets of the un-
usual aircraft seen near Montgomery, Alabama, July 24, 1948, stories cone
cerning which were carried by AP and UP, originating in Atlanta.
It may have been oversight by someone in the circulation dep't of
the Atlanta Journal, or it may have been "alarm" that a women would be re-
questing this type of information, even though it was published, and there-
by open information,
Even though I cannot identify myself to the Atlanta Journal publisher
or staff, I can to you, I have worked independently om the problem of aerial
missiles, of which I believe this was an example, with all my data going di-
rectly to officials and members of the security office of the Atomic Energy
Comm,, Los Alamos Atomic Project, Los Alamos, N,M,, and to high members of
the War Department, including Gen, Thomas T, Handy, Fourth U, S, Army Com-
mander, Ft, Sam Houston, Tex,, head of this U, S, Army district.
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Ex-Army Air Force'Fli |
I Y Arrrorceruiers |
- nvert Novel, New Gam¢ :
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! Fylflg Saucers’ Catch)'
| ;’f"_” of Day ana Beach :
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: isitors and Residents |
By JACK TROY
D\’\{Hflm-trmon Staff Writer |
A e
vn:r‘n:x;[r-f)l;:‘\ vTAfH’ il
i rr’ ormer Army Air
Raving nff"* i om California is|
Benbdnipdnrind t this Florida Beach
1ere, nowaday:
[tull of “f1y ays, the afr 18}
| S ing saucers.”
When Major Warren Franscioni )
and Lieut. Fred Morrison of San|
Louis Obispo completed their “aar
;Ni;f‘i‘ll‘nrrf in the China-Burma-|! i
F;‘m‘:‘:“qfi?f Italian theatres of op- |
Ay returned I 1
joined forces i X _lome and)
b .Im a novel industry. y
"‘l‘lsi:"‘dbh:‘- U:idw:lwa\'s been in-|;
& 7 iea of sailing pie
pans on the beach, and so he ¢ 11
|Franscioni put their e i fal-
lents together =t came up with & :
\|plastic version with fins They then |
- ‘ha(i invented a new game, & novel |
\way of playing catch with flying i«
||saucers, a gyroscopic airfoil aerody-
manically correct, precisely engi-|
neered and a pleasant way to take!l
gxercise. ‘
| Grid Coach Uses It "
| The football coach at Hemet.,‘
Calif., High School was angued[
|with the idea of using the saucers
to condition his playars, tearh them
palance and to reach out to mary
|catehes of the discs which, by eer=%
|tain methods of spinning, boom-\
|erang and also sail away from Lhe\‘
intended receiver. A player has to|}
{pe on his toes to catch them, espe- 1
|cially if the wind is blowing. \¢
It may be just coincidence, wan- "
scioni and Morrison said today, but |
the Hemet coach last season n.nedt
out his first championship team. The
bovs were on their toes. {
\ Although they had their dises
made in Glendale and had planned
on extensive West Coast promotion,
snow flakes unexpectedly fell and|
|so they headed for Daytona Beach,
{where, according to the tourists,
wsummer spends the winter.”
| No snow flakes fall here; only
‘!l\'mg saucers, which are sO durable |
lthsl they are not injured by cars|(¢
{passing over them. “
| Morrison was shot down in hisi.
|fifty-eighth mission in Italy but|,
{escaped serious injury. The two |y
ex-Army officers refer to mem-‘\
|selves as the world's champion Fly-|¢
ling Saucer pilots, and certainly
their novel inventior ~conceived m\,_
‘Cumornm and promoted in Florida |g
‘—hu caught on with beach loVers.ic
| They were smart enough, ofh
course, to patent the Flying Saeucers,
idea in order to capitalize on ready- |1
imade publicity pors, of repeated‘r
Saucer scares arour -the country.
In throwing the oid pie or rake\s
|tins there always was the danger |t
of cutting one's hands. But with |t
the new plastic fin saucers, the |7
only danger 1§ getting bopped in i
the nose. And only the less agile 't
allow that to happen once in a¢
while. |
Promotion Main Problem v
Franscioni and Morris feel that
coaches might find their sailing|’
gadgets just as handy in training a
squad as did the coach of Hemet.|]
And they are hopeful that they |
meay, in time to come, expand their | .
wares from coast to coast.
At the present time Daytona
Beach is the only resort that has|]
seen the saucers. The boys are||
contemplating attending a few fairs
and getting their product before
larger mgsses of the public ‘
«promotion is our only problem,” |
Morrison declared. “production 18
no item. All who've tried our in-|
teresting little gadget seem to have|
fun sailing it, and they also find
that they are using muscles longl‘
neglected.” l it
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STANDARD FORM NO. €4 ‘ K, ‘ - .
O/jice Memorandum « UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
TO : DTRROTOR . FRT DATE: 5.]17-L9
DIRECTOR, FBI 51 7=L9
3AC, RICHMOND -
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Thers are enclosed %we- clippings concerning what has
been described as a flying disc sighted at Radford, Virginia on
May 12, 1949. The Bureau may desiré to refer this to the Department
of the Air Force. This office has no information other than that
appearing in the news items which appear to cover the best information
available. The matter was not reported directly to this office and,
therefore, no investigation or inquiries are being made and none of
the individuals who allegedly saw the thing have been interviewed.
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Are at It Again,
Virginians Report
E Zounds! Here we go again! Inter-
|planetory space-ship? Visitor from
i‘Mars? A new Russian rocket ship?
Airgoing submarine? Just take your
|choice, your guess is every bit as
|good as the next gne according to
| reports from various sections of Vir-
|ginia and Tennessee on last night's
strange phenomenon. |
What it was, where it came from |
and where it was going, no one
knows, but even Civil Aeronautics
Administration officials were puzzled
and had no answer.
' Whatever the thing was, it re-
. {sembled a long cigar, with a bright .
'red nose and trailing smoke. Re-
\ports coinciding with that descrip-
tion came from localities along an
almost direct line through Tennessee
and Virginia and seemed sufficient
{0 convince even the most skeptical
that what the callers said they had
seen was no figment of imagination.
The descriptions generally in-
dicated the object came over the
gouthwest horizon and resembled a
streak of fire. There seemed to be
red lights or a powerful red glow in
the nose of the object. Far back at
the tail there was fire and smoke,
The first report came from Roa-|
noke about 8 o'clock’ when J. S.|
Mays and W. F. Mullins, both of that
city, said they noticed the object. l
“It looked like a streak of fire.“j
said Mays, “and appeared to be go-
ing almost straight up and was|
stepping on it.” |
Suddenly, he said, it appeared to|
level off and head eastward, re-|
sembling “a snake wiggling on|
water.” |
Other reports followed from|
Kingsport, Tenn., Bristof, Pulaskfl
Christiansburg and poinjs west of
Roarpke.
Whliam C. Flanik, chif aircraft
comtpunicator, CAA, @& Preston
|Glel airport, said none of the
|Lynchburg tower men had sighted
any unusual objects in the sky. f“—'- e "‘f’- 5t "';
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Did You See It? Well, What Was It? \
By WELLS CALDWELL front. The object was trailed by | Harvey Streets, gave this veplto be traveling too slowly for
The strange object seen travel- | either vapor or smoke and faded | sion: “At the first appearance it | that. - It appeared in the south-
ing across the heavens just after | from view when it seemed to be | looked like a comet. I recall ‘ west and traveled toward the
sundown last night has caused | directly overhead.” Halley’s comet and it resembled | east. There was a kind of red-
widespread speculation here in Mrs. Alfred Tolley, of 1702 | that. There was, at first, a|dish looking smoke about it.”
Radford as well as in other sec- [ Seventh Street, west, reported ' bright spot ahead of the stream Miss Dody Jones, ‘of Harvey
tions of Southwestern Virginia | her 12-year-old son, Albert, was | of fire, but the trail didn’t look | Street, reported watching the
and Eastern Tennessee. playing next door and noticed ‘ so bright when the object reach- | phenomenom with a group of
Exactly - what the mysterious | the object. She said her son had | ed its. zenith, children in the neighborhood.
traveler was, no one here seems | been studying comets in school “It appeared to be moving slow- | She said it looked like “what I
to know, and the number of con- (and called her attention to the |ly at first and later very fast,|think a comet would look like.”
flicting reports have only added | phenomenon, thinking that it was | which indicates that it was quite “It was a red flare”, she con-
to the confusion. either a'comet or a meteor. |a distance away when I first|tinued, “which was light on the
This much seems to be cer- “The strange looking object”,|saw it. The object seemed’ to|front. It moved slowly from
tain: the object appeared over |she said “was long and black’fcllow a straight path, however | the Southwest and traveled what
the Southwest horizion shortly | with a light on the front end. It | it véered a little once — in sort | seemed to be straight up. It
before 8 p.-m. and was moving | seemed to follow the air route | of an arc — and then straighted | curved toward the east and the
eastward. Also, it was black, or [ from the directon of Pulaski, | out agin. I heard no noise.” fire streaks trailing it got longer
at least part of it was. later turning and heading toward | Mrs. James D. Heinline, of 60 | as they began to fade out.” ]
A Radford man, living in the | Blacksburg. There was a lighl‘Jackson Street, Monroe Terrace, L. B. Graybeal, of Christians-
east end section, asked that his | on the front end and great long [ said she and her husband watch- | burg, a former Air Force pilot,
name not be used, but give this | streaks of fire, ‘We saw it for | e¢ it with some neighbors. estimated - the altitude of the |
version: about . 10° minutes.” | “It looked like a long black | object at 6,000 feet. He said
“I was working in the yard Miss Joe Stewart, of the Rad- . cigar which was on fire”, she|there was a light from the object
when I ‘glanced up and saw a|ford College biology department, | stated. “We heard a faint sound, | as it passed over and a “roaring!
long black ‘thing flying across|said she saw the object and as- | which might have been a small | sound.”
| the sky. It came from the direc- | sumed it was the exhaust from | motor. At times it looked like| Other reports have been re- |
| tion of Pulaski. It looked aan airplane.. She added that she | an' airplane 'way, 'way off. 1| ceived from as far West as Kings- |
great deal like a rounded stick\was “in no way alarmed.” |thought at first it might be a!port, Tenn., and as far East as{
of wood which was burning in' Fred W. Hurt, of Fourth and | comet or a meteor, but it seemed | Bedford. J
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Looks Like Flying Seegars Now
Flying saucers are passe, Pulaski radio reported two seen
; Nowl people in Brls}t)ol e Sho | there. One about 4 p. m, and
ing *“long, cigar - shape ob-
ject” flashing across the sky. thf" Other aln :,Ou’l- lal:er‘ He |
|~ But Bristolians vere not the | said that Pulaski also had a pi-
! only spectators of the strange | lot’s Teport of the “streak” trav-
Cl"arf}: }'efslt"d_fiy EV;{YHT;E- eling northeast at an altitude of
€ ilaming object was re-
ported sighted at Kingsport, ab;ut 3(:‘000 !e;:' “flami b
Christiansburg : a;d Roanoke J'ECfgpt‘):;esrem:-ecefved aanghr?is-
anlge??:i:;yl,)l;tiaosfi State Street, tlansb_urg and Bqaque but air-
reported that he say a “whit- | ports in thosg Vicinities reported
ish, glistem‘ng mass, long and ’ no information on the strange
¢lindrical like a big cigars Lo i S
flying from east to west about
7:18 yesterday. He saiq he
sighted the “cigar” flying very
rapidly over Virginia Heights
| and got out his binoculars to
| look at it,
| An unidentified caller in-
| formed the Herald Courier last
night that she had sighted
' something that “looked like
White smoke with a blue flame
that traveled to the north and
east” about the same time, “It |
difin’t look like an airplane,” |
she said, “only like white smoke, |
If was just a streak and almost |
Oft of sight it wag s0 high.” |
Another local woman reported
that she haq Seen a “silver
streak that lookeq like it was
about 100 feet long” flash across -
the sky shortly = aftep seven » ) /‘/Ekfl LD CouriEb
o'clock.” She estimated the speed Bris7To A
| at about 200 miles per hour.
| A traffic controlman at Tri- e " (/A
Cities Airport, who asked that B RIST oA,
his name be withheld, said that
the strange craft had nt’)th been —
seen at the airport alt ough /
| they had had inquires on the \\// “//5,71
“cigar-streak,”
He said he had checked with
the Atlanta Air Route traffic
control center after receiving
inquiries but they reported no
| yknowledge of any jet aircraft in !
| fthis vicinity,
He speculated that the streaks
may have been caused by a jet-
|#Propelled plane or planes, “The J
’ objects were reported flying at
an altitude of 30,000 feet,” he |
| said, “1f a jet plane were fly- |
ing that high, it would be mov- |
ing so fast the vapor trail would | e i
| be about all a person on the | 31 - RICH D
ground could see.” I { Pt i -
The controlman said that the { MAY 171949
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PHILADEIPHTA, PA. | 6-15-49 5=20=49 JAMES L. KIRKLAND
TMLE JNKNOWN S‘BJEC‘T;’("BLE, SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANTA, | CHARACTEROF CASE
UNKNOWN DATE MISCELLANEOUS
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SYNOPSIS OF FACTS: FREDER ICMARQUARDT submitted ash residue to
Fire Marshal's Office, Philadelphia, Pa., /
which made chemical analysis.’ MARQUARDT of — p
opinion that firf(:gay have been caused by .
military flare orX~*flying saucer®.
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DETATLS: This investigation is predicated upon a letter 3
e, received from the office of the Fire Marshal,
L ,C Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, dated May 19, 1949,
=t| . advising that ashes had been received from one
F./“ARQI'ARUI', purportedly from a fire which had continued to burn for twelve
hurse A chemical analysis of the ashes had been requested.s The Fire Marshal's
Office noted that MARQUARDT had at one time warked for the Atomic Energy
Commission.
Captain MICHAEL HANNAN, Fire Marshal's Office, advised that there
had been received through the mail on April 21, 1949, an ash sample with a re=-
quest for analysise In the letter of transmittal, MARQUARDT had pointed out
that the fire had continued to burn twelve hours after water had first been
applieds The original letter of transmittal was examined and reflected that
an object had entered the roof of the building, caused an explosion, and threw
people out of beds
Captain HANNAN said he attempted to locate MARQUARDT at his
residence, 127 South 16th Street, but had beed unsuccessful. He added that at
the time the building manager had commented that MARQUARDT had been employed by
the Atomic Energy Commission. ‘MARQUARDT was then requested by letter to appear
at the Fire Marshal's Offices
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Acting Chief GEORGE KINCTON advised that he had interviewed
MARQUARDT at the time he came to the office since Captain HANNAN was absent
at the time. He said that he then learned for the first time that the fire
in question had taken place near Scranton, Pennsylvania, and had occurred
about, six-months '’ previouslys This caused the Marshal's Office to withdraw
from the case on a question of jurisdiction and MARQUARDT was advised that
' .any further action on his part should be referred to the State Police
authoritiese
At the same time, KINGTON furnished MARQUARDT with the results
of the analysis which had been made of the ash submitted, and which analysis
had been made by Dr. EDWARD BURKE, City Chemist, Chemical Laboratory, Room
875, City Hall. This report reflected that the ash contained Magnesium,
Aluminum, Iron, and Calcium in the form of silicates, sulphur and carbonates.
FREDERTC MARQUARDT was interviewed at his place of business,
the H. A. KULJIAN COMPANY, Broad Street and Girard Avemue, Philadelphia,
Pennsylvaniae At this time he advised that he had received the sample of
ash from a friend, ’.'IC»CDY/S?IAEL«‘F“R, Lake Ariel, Re D., Wayne County, Pennsyl-
vania, through the mail{ ' He said that Lake Ariel is about one mile south
of South Canaan, near Scranton, Pennsylvaniae He stated that SHAEFFER'S
house had burned about six months ago, that the fire had occurred at night
during a storm and that a large object had struck the roof and ignited the
house which had burned to the ground in less than an hour.
He said that he had not been present during the fire but that
these details had been furnished by letter from SHAEFFER at the time a sample
of the ash was forwarded for analysis, He said that he was of the personal
opinion that the ash might be a part of a military flare or a "flying saucer".
He pointed out that he has been advised by associates in the
engineering field that one of the characteristics of some types of flares
is the fact that they burn for a considerable periode He stated that the
mass of the ash residue had remained ignited for a period of twelve hours,
He also stated that he did not think there had been an explosion but that a
loud noise had probably been caused by the vacuum created as the missile
or object s truck the roof. He added that there remains a quantity of the
ash, amounting to one bushel, at SHAEFFFR's premises at Lake Ariel.
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MARQUARDT advised that he had been employed by the Atomic
Energy Commission at Oak Ridge until 1943 He was entirely rational. He
discounted the theory that a portion of a meteor had struck the house on
the basis of the chemical analysis made by the City Chemical Laboratory.
MARQUARDT advised that at the suggestion of the City
anthorities, he had written to SHAEFFER and suggested that any further in-
quiries be directed to the State Polices
The file of the Philadelphia Office reflect that the records
of Imrigrationjd Naturalization Service were negative to an inquiry concern-
ing FREDERIC S./AMARQUARDT, OEM (Buream File 77=30297)e The files of this
office likewisé reflect that MARQUARDT by letter received August 14, 1947,
requested of this office the identity of a powder or dust used to catch .
thievese
Inasmuch as there is no viglation indicated within the Bureau's
jurisdictiony there is no further investigation being conducted in this
matter. However, the ash residue obtained fyrom the Fire Marshal's Office
is being forwarded to the Bureau Laboratory for any interest or study the
Laboratory may desire to conduct relative to flares or in connection with 3
the possibility of the.presence of "flying saucers".
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FLYING DISCS, INFORMATION CONCERNING. WHILE ON VACATION RECENTLY
AT LAKE OF THE WOODS, NEAR KENORA, ONTARIO, CANADA, SA CLME G.
MATTHEWS OBSERVED UNCONVENTIONAL AIRCRAFT RESEMBLING FLYIF¥ DISsc.
HE HAS FURNISHED FULL INFORMATION CONCERNING SAME TO U.S. R
FORCE INTELLIGENCE, FORT CROCK, NEBRASKA, AND SAME WILL NOT BE
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0 {fice Memomndum ¢ UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
e M : DIRECTOR, FBI DATE: July 21, 1949
(‘?7‘—.""' FROM : SAC, NEW ORLEANS
SUBJECT: (FLYING DISCS AND SAUCERS
MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION CONCERNING
For the Bureau's information, several citizens in the community of
Alexandria, Louisiana, have recently reportedly seen flying discs. The Alexan-
dria, Louisiana daily paper has carried numerous articles concerning this.
At a recent meeting of the Young Mens Business Club in Alexandria,
a member suggested that since Alexandria, Louisiana is known as a convention city,
the club should try promoting a convention of flying saucer seers. This particu=
lar comment appeared in the Alexandria paper and was picked up by the AP lines,
Mr. A. MyD‘flNGELO, a member of the Young Mens Business Club, advised
Special Agent WALTER E. MOEHLE that since the AP release, they have received a
large number of requests regarding the convention of flying saucer seers from many
parts of the United States. Mr., DeANGELO states that the interest of the people
is evidenced by their inquiries about convention particulars, stating they are
flying saucer seers and want to attend such a convention.
This gentleman further advised that in view of the volume of inquiries
coming in, it appears that the YMBC will have to hire an employee to handle all
the correspondence, It might be noted that he advised a representative of the
Air Force from Barksdale Field, Louisiana, has inquired as to plans of a flying
saucer convention, stating that they are interested in furnishing an observer if
such a convention were held,
This information is being furnished the Bureau, as it is possible such
an enterprise may cause people to falsify that they have seen flying discs or fly-
ing saucers, Such falsifications might be made so that they might attend such a
convention or become official delegates thereto.
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SAC, Phoenix June 30, 1949
'.Q Director, FBI /
AILLIAM ALEERT RHOIES
INFORNMATION CONCERNING %
: FLYING DISCE
: Reurlet June 8, 1949, captioned "Flying Discs,"
It is believed that the reference appearing in the first line of your
referenced letter to the Bureau is incorrect. Complete details concerning the
matter referred to in your referenced communication appear in a letter from
your office dated September 4, 1947, and not September 9, 1947.
Pursuant to your request, you are granted authority to furnish the
attached blind memorandum, which was forwarded to the Bureau with your referenced
letter for approval, to Mr. lynn C. Aldrich, 0SI representative, Phoenix,
Arizona,
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To : Mr, H, B, Fletcher"‘/-"i‘.-‘ DATE: June 30, 1949
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Your approval is requested in order that the attached letter and IR
memorandum can be forwarded to the Phoenix Office, authorizing that office to
furnish the attached memorandum to Mr. Lynn C. Aldrich, OSI representative,
Phoenix, Arizona.
Background
In July 1947, William Albert Rhodes was jointly interviewed by Special
Agent J, Bailey Brower (Bureau Agent) and George Fugate, Jr., A-2 representative
from Hamilton Field, California. The purpose of the interview was to secure from
Mr, Rhodes information and photographs of a flying disc, which had been sighted
and photographed by Rhodes.
The complete results of the interview and subsequent events are contained
in the attached memorandum submitted by the Phoenix Office.
Mr, Lynn C. Aldrich, OSI representative at Phoenix, Arizona, has requested
the Phoenix Office to furnish him complete facts relating to this interview, which
are to be subsequently forwarded to the OSI Office at San Francisco. According to
Aldrich, Mr, Fugate, referred to above, has been questioned concerning this matter
by his superiors and he has advised them that his recollection is "hazy" on the
matter, According to Aldrich, Mr. Rhodes has apparently now requested the Air
Force to return the photographs, which were previously obtained from him.
Recommendation
It is recommended that the Phoenix Office be advised that the memorandum
attached may be forwarded by them to Mr. Aldrich, OSI representative, Phoenix,
Arizona,
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United States Department of Justice
Phoenix, Arizona
June 8, 1949
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RE: FLYING DISCS
Dear Sir:
Refer Phoenix letter to Bureau, dated September 9, 1947,
captioned, REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS, for the attention of Assistant
Director D. M. LADD, setting forth the result of an interview con-
ducted by GEORGE FUGATE, JR., then a representative of the Air Force
Intelligence, from Hamilton Field, California, and Special Agent
J. BATLEY BROWER with one WILLIAM ALBERT RHODES, 4333 N, 1l4th Street,
Phoenix, Arizona, concerning his observation and photographing of an
object which was considered by the Air Force of significance from a
security standpoint.
On June 7, 1949, Mr, LYNN C. ALDRICH, OSI representative,
Phoenix, Arizona, called at this office, advising that he had been
requested by his superiors in San Francisco to obtain detailed in-
formation concerning this interview since RHODES apparently~has
requested the Air Force to return the photographs./ ¥ **
FUGATE, when questioned by his superiors concerning the
matter, stated his recollection was "hazy" on the matter. OSI is
anxious to secure the substance of information in the Phoenix file
concerning this matter., Mr., ALDRICH was furnished the substance of
the interview, as set forth in letter of reference and he has now
requested that he be furnished with a blind memorandum setting forth
this information in detail in order that he may make it available to
the OS5I at San Franecisco.
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A memorandum setting forth this information has been pre-
pared by this office .and is attached hereto. The Bureau is requested
to advise if such memorandum should be made availgble to 0SI,
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the Bureau of a letter which Walter Winchell had received Xiss Gandy.——
Srom an individual in Los Angeles indicajfing that he had )
seen a flying saucer leave the ground within his view and in
which letter he theorized that this might have been a landing
from another planet.
The Los Angeles Office was requested to locate and g
interview the writer of this letter, Peter Camerlon Jones, 164
West 37th Street, Los Angeles 7, California.
The Los Angeles Office has now advised that the
present owner and former managep at this address have no
knowledge of any Peter CamerlomJones and that other investigation
to locate Jones was unproductive. It would appear, therejfore,
that this may have been a prank.
You may desire to advise Mr. Cuneo that there is no
such person at the address given inasmuch as he indicated that
Mr. Winchell ;ntendedbfio do ajcolumn on this letter.
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